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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6511609" data-attributes="member: 2011">But not every fighter, rogue, or monk cannot cast spells.Without multiclassing, 1E had 6 classes/subclasses that could not cast spells; 4 classes/subclasses that could (note: bards required multiclassing). 60% could not cast spells, 40% could.Without multiclassing/prestige, 3E had 4 classes that could not cast spells; 3 classes that could cast lesser spells; and 4 classes that cast.Without multiclassing, 5E has 1 class that cannot ever cast spells; 4 classes that can cast lesser spells; and 6 classes that cast.If we take 5E to the subclass level to balance out the traditional non-spell casting classes, it's something like: 5E has 7 subclasses that cannot cast spells; 9 subclasses that can cast lesser spells; and 24 subclasses that can (note: I do not have the PHB in front of me, so this can be off by a hair). 17.5% of subclasses cannot, 22.5% of subclasses can cast lesser spells, and 60% of subclasses cast spells. 1 in 6 subclasses cannot cast spells. 5 in 6 can.Many PCs can cast spells by a significant majority, even some fighters, rogues, and monks. This might not be true at every table, but it is probably true at a majority of tables. The ratio of the percentage of classes/subclasses that could cast versus those who can not has changed dramatically.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6511609, member: 2011"] But not every fighter, rogue, or monk cannot cast spells. Without multiclassing, 1E had 6 classes/subclasses that could not cast spells; 4 classes/subclasses that could (note: bards required multiclassing). 60% could not cast spells, 40% could. Without multiclassing/prestige, 3E had 4 classes that could not cast spells; 3 classes that could cast lesser spells; and 4 classes that cast. Without multiclassing, 5E has 1 class that cannot ever cast spells; 4 classes that can cast lesser spells; and 6 classes that cast. If we take 5E to the subclass level to balance out the traditional non-spell casting classes, it's something like: 5E has 7 subclasses that cannot cast spells; 9 subclasses that can cast lesser spells; and 24 subclasses that can (note: I do not have the PHB in front of me, so this can be off by a hair). 17.5% of subclasses cannot, 22.5% of subclasses can cast lesser spells, and 60% of subclasses cast spells. 1 in 6 subclasses cannot cast spells. 5 in 6 can. Many PCs can cast spells by a significant majority, even some fighters, rogues, and monks. This might not be true at every table, but it is probably true at a majority of tables. The ratio of the percentage of classes/subclasses that could cast versus those who can not has changed dramatically. [/QUOTE]

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