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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus" data-source="post: 871078" data-attributes="member: 1077">Thank you for proving my point.  Please see my other posts above about Evil and how they like to hurt, oppress and kill others and show no compassion when doing so simply because it is convienient to do so.I do acknowledge it, and it isn't narrow.  It is a very wide bridge that leads to Evil.Aren't we?  Sure looks that way from here.  There are other options available, but since the most convienient one is to kill them, it is the one they chose.I do see your point.  I have no problem at all with killing in combat, when need warrants it.  I just fail to see the need to go overkill and CdG an enemy who is unconcious and no longer posing a threat.Let me give a different scenario.  Let's say the party was attacked by a Fiendish Troll (fiendish to make sure it is evil, and a troll because it will regenerate if you just leave it there).  Well, if this was combat, then I'd say you can probably get away with killing it without fear of the alignment book being thrown at you.  Assuming you know Trolls regenerate, this guy will keep coming.  You've tried to reason with it, you've demanded it's surrender, it's killed many people before your eyes.  Toss acid/fire on it, and be done with it.  At least (a) you KNOW without a doubt it is evil because you saw it kill people and (b) there is no other recourse.  You tried to talk to it, make it listen to reason, demanded it's surrender, and to no avail.  The only other way to deal with it is death.  My other arguements were to imprision the creatures you were dealing with, lure them away from the civilization, get higher level help (this is still viable assuming there are higher level NPCs around to help you) and bind it.  No point in imprisioning it, it can't be reasoned with, you tried already.  It is probably strong enough to break out of any bonds you put on it.  So admittedly, you have no other recourse.  It is the middle of battle, slay the beast and burn it.Now please note that I am not chaning my stance on the issue, I am actually encouraging my point.  Which I stated previously, if there is no other recourse, then death may be warranted.  We have all the facts here.  Let's go back to the sleeping fire giant example (but using the Fiendish Troll).If this was a sleeping fiendish troll, then what?  Well, you must consider the factors.  In scenario 1 you were in combat, defending yourself and others.  Here you are not in immediate danger.  In scenario 1 you witnessed it kill innocent people.  Did you witness this before and follow it here, or did you just "happen" upon it?  Do you know it is Fiendish?  Maybe you aren't aware.  Can it be reasoned with?  In scenario 1 it couldn't be, but you don't know with this one.So to outright CdG or otherwise try to kill it without knowing more facts, your attack is unproked and would be considered an Evil action.  Even if you KNEW it was Fiendish and Evil, you may not know why.  Was it a slave owner on an outter plane, and he came here to look for more slaves?  Or did he come here to live alone, in peace, hidden away from other Evil beings on the outter planes, trying to change his ways?Yes, it can... a lot of the time even.  A CdG?  Hardly ever (not never, just hardly ever).</blockquote>

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