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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus" data-source="post: 871109" data-attributes="member: 1077">Ok, so you are telling me you provoked an attack with this well known, high level, Evil sorcerer?&nbsp; Who is the bad guy here again?&nbsp; Seriously, the alignment &quot;Evil&quot; is not a death sentence in and of itself.&nbsp; Just because someone/thing is evil doesn't mean it deserves to die.&nbsp; At least not right then and there.But you did mention he threw some nasty spells at the town which probably killed people.&nbsp; To that, my next question would be, does your character have a death sentence?&nbsp; He knows relatively how high level this evil guy is and he goes ahead and provokes an attack with him anyway?&nbsp; Was the only plan available to him to attack him with a Hold spell?&nbsp; What motivated him to do this alone?&nbsp; Did he crave prestige out of killing the evil wizard?&nbsp; Did he want to loot his magic items when he died?&nbsp; Did he want REVENGE (there is a nice &quot;Good&quot; word, isn't it?) for killing the innocents of his town?&nbsp; These seem like evil qualities already so no matter what his next course of action is, does it really matter?Why did he cast Hold on this guy?&nbsp; What was his motivations for doing so?&nbsp; And please don't just say, &quot;because he was evil&quot; or &quot;because he deserved to die&quot;.&nbsp; Delve a little deeper then that.&nbsp; Why did he deserve to die (I know I already know) and why did this wizard think he should be the one to deliver this punishement and that he could do it alone?&nbsp; I need a motivating factor here, because CdGing this guy is the least of your alignment worries.Just out of curiousity, this Wizard couldn't say, get help from higher levels?&nbsp; Avoid him all together and vow one day to get stronger until he could adequately deal with him?&nbsp; Trick him into being his apprentice so that he could (a) keep a watch on him and (b) perhaps foil any further attempts at killing the villagers (&quot;No your evilness, I put the correct components in your spell pouch for Meteor Swarm.&nbsp; I don't know what happened.&quot;&nbsp; Hehe).Just so you can get some satisfactory here.&nbsp; What's done is done.&nbsp; For whatever reason you give me (and I hope you do answer some of my questions above) the Hold Person spell stuck and he has to make a split decision.&nbsp; Kill this evil guy, or wait until the Hold spell wears off and he kills me and the rest of the town?IdeasA) &quot;You see my power to hold you with but a few words.&nbsp; I am far greater than you in both power and knowledge.&nbsp; I could kill you with but a blink of the eye.&nbsp; Leave these townsfolk alone, or our next meeting will be fatal for you.&quot;&nbsp; Bluff check...B) &quot;I'm REALLY sorry, I mistargetted.&quot;&nbsp; Bluff check... (ok, that was just a funny one to throw in there)C) Knock him out, and deliver him to the authorities where they can rightfully decide what to do with him.&nbsp; I do believe you can deliver a CdG subdually.D) Fulfill your evil plans by CdGing him, builing a name for yourself as the Evil Wizard Slayer, Keeping his magic items so you are well above your intended wealth level, then continue to provoke attacks with higher levels until you finally lose and die.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RigaMortus, post: 871109, member: 1077"] Ok, so you are telling me you provoked an attack with this well known, high level, Evil sorcerer? Who is the bad guy here again? Seriously, the alignment "Evil" is not a death sentence in and of itself. Just because someone/thing is evil doesn't mean it deserves to die. At least not right then and there. But you did mention he threw some nasty spells at the town which probably killed people. To that, my next question would be, does your character have a death sentence? He knows relatively how high level this evil guy is and he goes ahead and provokes an attack with him anyway? Was the only plan available to him to attack him with a Hold spell? What motivated him to do this alone? Did he crave prestige out of killing the evil wizard? Did he want to loot his magic items when he died? Did he want REVENGE (there is a nice "Good" word, isn't it?) for killing the innocents of his town? These seem like evil qualities already so no matter what his next course of action is, does it really matter? Why did he cast Hold on this guy? What was his motivations for doing so? And please don't just say, "because he was evil" or "because he deserved to die". Delve a little deeper then that. Why did he deserve to die (I know I already know) and why did this wizard think he should be the one to deliver this punishement and that he could do it alone? I need a motivating factor here, because CdGing this guy is the least of your alignment worries. Just out of curiousity, this Wizard couldn't say, get help from higher levels? Avoid him all together and vow one day to get stronger until he could adequately deal with him? Trick him into being his apprentice so that he could (a) keep a watch on him and (b) perhaps foil any further attempts at killing the villagers ("No your evilness, I put the correct components in your spell pouch for Meteor Swarm. I don't know what happened." Hehe). Just so you can get some satisfactory here. What's done is done. For whatever reason you give me (and I hope you do answer some of my questions above) the Hold Person spell stuck and he has to make a split decision. Kill this evil guy, or wait until the Hold spell wears off and he kills me and the rest of the town? Ideas A) "You see my power to hold you with but a few words. I am far greater than you in both power and knowledge. I could kill you with but a blink of the eye. Leave these townsfolk alone, or our next meeting will be fatal for you." Bluff check... B) "I'm REALLY sorry, I mistargetted." Bluff check... (ok, that was just a funny one to throw in there) C) Knock him out, and deliver him to the authorities where they can rightfully decide what to do with him. I do believe you can deliver a CdG subdually. D) Fulfill your evil plans by CdGing him, builing a name for yourself as the Evil Wizard Slayer, Keeping his magic items so you are well above your intended wealth level, then continue to provoke attacks with higher levels until you finally lose and die. [/QUOTE]

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