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<blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 871196" data-attributes="member: 6239">Do you need a good definition of &quot;unprovoked&quot;?&nbsp; This wasn't it.Yes, you do need to know they willfully commited evil, which is why vigilantism is such a bad idea.&nbsp; Killing a person who commits evil is not an evil act.&nbsp; There doesn't need to be any other punishment, so long as it fits the crime.&nbsp; In ancient times, your hand might be cut off if you were caught stealing.&nbsp; Was there any other way?&nbsp; Perhaps, but that doesn't make that punishment evil.Are we talking about D&amp;D or your campaign?&nbsp; Some things in fantasy are pure evil.You don't understand, do you?&nbsp; If you kill them to prevent them being a threat again in the battle, it is not evil, it is pure utility.&nbsp; Only wanton killing can be called evil.&nbsp; If the other side isn't healing the downed allies, then it is wanton killing.If you see them commit evil worth being killed over, killing them is not evil.&nbsp; If you know they are commpeled, or susspect they might be, it would be wrong to kill them.&nbsp; If they are common bandits, it is not the same thing.&nbsp; I agree that if you off every person who attacks you, you will run evil eventually.Evil is disrespect for life.&nbsp; You can kill when you have some respect for life.&nbsp; I never claimed killing was good.&nbsp; Only that it could very easily be a non-evil act.&nbsp; Please pay attention to that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LokiDR, post: 871196, member: 6239"] Do you need a good definition of "unprovoked"? This wasn't it. Yes, you do need to know they willfully commited evil, which is why vigilantism is such a bad idea. Killing a person who commits evil is not an evil act. There doesn't need to be any other punishment, so long as it fits the crime. In ancient times, your hand might be cut off if you were caught stealing. Was there any other way? Perhaps, but that doesn't make that punishment evil. Are we talking about D&D or your campaign? Some things in fantasy are pure evil. You don't understand, do you? If you kill them to prevent them being a threat again in the battle, it is not evil, it is pure utility. Only wanton killing can be called evil. If the other side isn't healing the downed allies, then it is wanton killing. If you see them commit evil worth being killed over, killing them is not evil. If you know they are commpeled, or susspect they might be, it would be wrong to kill them. If they are common bandits, it is not the same thing. I agree that if you off every person who attacks you, you will run evil eventually. Evil is disrespect for life. You can kill when you have some respect for life. I never claimed killing was good. Only that it could very easily be a non-evil act. Please pay attention to that. [/QUOTE]

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