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Is D&D 4E too "far out" to expand the market easily?
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<blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 4343237" data-attributes="member: 5202"><p>Considering TSR/WotC have never released a setting that didn't have humans as the dominant race, I don't see how it has stopped being humancentric.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah I keep geting pissed at our High Elf neighbor and his loud parties, not to mention teh Dwarves down the street always siting around singing songs while they get drunk, then hoping they don't take a mining pick to my car.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Adventurers aren't normal people and their life doesn't reflect it. Maybe the actual setting books will show more what their worlds are like to live in, altho there is a sample town in the DMG and between the PHB fluff and Worlds & Monsters, the world is spelled out to a reasonable degree.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The shook things up a bit, gave us some new races and classes to play with and I'm glad. The races and classes they left out compared to 3.5 fell into one of the following categories typically: </p><p></p><p>a)broken in an overpowered way (Druid aka CoDzilla)</p><p>b)broken in an underpowered way (Bard, Monk)</p><p>c)one of the least popular options (Barbarian, Sorceror)</p><p>d)no real niche in D&D (Gnome)</p><p></p><p>The implied setting is just sort of there, I don't think they expect people to be running it much per se, they expect people might run a few things there until they can get their hands on FR or other settings. I may not be typical tho as I enjoy seeing some things change and feel that it has enough interesting things going on to draw new people in.</p><p></p><p>Oh and someone made a comment that people coming from Harry Potter might feel there isn't enough magic in D&D, I would agree for any pre-4E D&D. I ended up playing Wizards often (largely b/c no one else wanted to deal w/them) and got annoyed that I could only cast a few spells and then it was crossbow the rest of the day. I can toss Magic Missile or other at wills and cantrips all day long now, which definitely feels more magical to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SSquirrel, post: 4343237, member: 5202"] Considering TSR/WotC have never released a setting that didn't have humans as the dominant race, I don't see how it has stopped being humancentric. Yeah I keep geting pissed at our High Elf neighbor and his loud parties, not to mention teh Dwarves down the street always siting around singing songs while they get drunk, then hoping they don't take a mining pick to my car. Adventurers aren't normal people and their life doesn't reflect it. Maybe the actual setting books will show more what their worlds are like to live in, altho there is a sample town in the DMG and between the PHB fluff and Worlds & Monsters, the world is spelled out to a reasonable degree. The shook things up a bit, gave us some new races and classes to play with and I'm glad. The races and classes they left out compared to 3.5 fell into one of the following categories typically: a)broken in an overpowered way (Druid aka CoDzilla) b)broken in an underpowered way (Bard, Monk) c)one of the least popular options (Barbarian, Sorceror) d)no real niche in D&D (Gnome) The implied setting is just sort of there, I don't think they expect people to be running it much per se, they expect people might run a few things there until they can get their hands on FR or other settings. I may not be typical tho as I enjoy seeing some things change and feel that it has enough interesting things going on to draw new people in. Oh and someone made a comment that people coming from Harry Potter might feel there isn't enough magic in D&D, I would agree for any pre-4E D&D. I ended up playing Wizards often (largely b/c no one else wanted to deal w/them) and got annoyed that I could only cast a few spells and then it was crossbow the rest of the day. I can toss Magic Missile or other at wills and cantrips all day long now, which definitely feels more magical to me. [/QUOTE]
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