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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 4343676" data-attributes="member: 18">It's also not, actually, the least human-o-centric show mentioned, thinking about it. Farscape, Babylon 5 and Star Trek all devoted a lot more time to the non-human characters than SW, and indeed Farscape had a world where Ben was the only real "human" around 99% of the time, and the Sebeceans, who basically stood in for humans, weren't the most major race nor ever-present.What 4E feels most like to me, is, and I think others have mentioned this, Farscape + 70s fantasy. That's not a bad deal, really, but I don't think a kid who is 13 now, say, and enjoyed LotR, Harry Potter, PotC and Narnia is going to be keen on D&D, necessarily. I think it's going to seem a bit garish and OTT and kind of OLD to him. I think WotC needs to come up with something new. Something not D&D but party-based fantasy nonetheless. 4E's mechanics are fine, I reckon. It's the style that needs adjusting if this market is to be hit.Hexgrid - But that's precisely my point - EVEN Star Wars isn't ANYWHERE NEAR as far out as D&D 4E is by default, at least imho. And SW isn't necessarily big with the demographic I'm thinking about.</blockquote>