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<blockquote data-quote="AllisterH" data-source="post: 4343872" data-attributes="member: 51325">Wait? You're arguing that LAWN gnomes are a good source to tell potential players? *LOL*, I can see it now &quot;Hey bobby, you know that Traveller Gnome guy? Want to play one like that&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp;Again, I'm not sure the Uruk-Hai ARE half-orcs. How do you get a crossbreed that is bigger, stronger and more cunning than the parent races combined?&nbsp;As for pre-1980 mythology, um, Merlin is a cambion and that's truly old school.&nbsp;Here's the thing though, I disagree with Ruin Explorer...I think any potential gamer under the age of 30 has grown up with things like Dragonborn and Tieflings. In fact, I'd argue that gnomes and half-orcs are the &quot;wahoo&quot; race. &nbsp;Besides, how come Dragonborn are considered wahoo when arguably the most FAMOUS D&amp;D setting to the wider public, Dragonlance, actually had Dragonmen even before 3E. Draconians are&nbsp; a defining aspect of the setting and THIS setting is the one that the wider public knows most about.&nbsp;I can point out Dragonmen being presented to the wider public in non-farcical manner unlike the gnomes, going back to at least the birth of Dragonlance. However, the same can't be said for gnomes.&nbsp;So what makes Dragonborn more wahoo than gnomes?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AllisterH, post: 4343872, member: 51325"] Wait? You're arguing that LAWN gnomes are a good source to tell potential players? *LOL*, I can see it now "Hey bobby, you know that Traveller Gnome guy? Want to play one like that". Again, I'm not sure the Uruk-Hai ARE half-orcs. How do you get a crossbreed that is bigger, stronger and more cunning than the parent races combined? As for pre-1980 mythology, um, Merlin is a cambion and that's truly old school. Here's the thing though, I disagree with Ruin Explorer...I think any potential gamer under the age of 30 has grown up with things like Dragonborn and Tieflings. In fact, I'd argue that gnomes and half-orcs are the "wahoo" race. Besides, how come Dragonborn are considered wahoo when arguably the most FAMOUS D&D setting to the wider public, Dragonlance, actually had Dragonmen even before 3E. Draconians are a defining aspect of the setting and THIS setting is the one that the wider public knows most about. I can point out Dragonmen being presented to the wider public in non-farcical manner unlike the gnomes, going back to at least the birth of Dragonlance. However, the same can't be said for gnomes. So what makes Dragonborn more wahoo than gnomes? [/QUOTE]

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