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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5644650" data-attributes="member: 8835">in my just prior post (because I didn't see this one) i clarified that I have apparently defined &quot;Competitive&quot; game as a category.I'm not sure having a practical application is even a factor, as we know there can be training and learning games.One thing I'd like to see differentiated, is activites that have the word &quot;game&quot; in them which truly are games, and activities that have that word tacked on through tradition, as a colloquialism.Meaning, if I was truly right that Tag wasn't a game, people saying &quot;let's go play a game of tag&quot; aren't going to get shot by the WordNazi's.&nbsp; But we as people interested in the true categorization do recognize what is and is NOT really a game, despite the word used.Case in point, the dictionary would say that when your kid plays with his toy cars that he is playing a game of pretend.&nbsp; I say BS.&nbsp; He's playing pretend. There's no rules, and there's no intent for their to be rules.&nbsp; Even if you join in, and he says &quot;no, you can't do that with the Dukes of Hazard car&quot; its not because he's playing a game, its because your doing something that conflicts with the story he's telling.Unless I'm wrong (which has been proven before in this thread), playing Pretend is not the same as playing a Game, despite people tacking the word &quot;game&quot; on there.D&amp;D takes the concept of Pretend, and adds a bunch of formal rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Janx, post: 5644650, member: 8835"] in my just prior post (because I didn't see this one) i clarified that I have apparently defined "Competitive" game as a category. I'm not sure having a practical application is even a factor, as we know there can be training and learning games. One thing I'd like to see differentiated, is activites that have the word "game" in them which truly are games, and activities that have that word tacked on through tradition, as a colloquialism. Meaning, if I was truly right that Tag wasn't a game, people saying "let's go play a game of tag" aren't going to get shot by the WordNazi's. But we as people interested in the true categorization do recognize what is and is NOT really a game, despite the word used. Case in point, the dictionary would say that when your kid plays with his toy cars that he is playing a game of pretend. I say BS. He's playing pretend. There's no rules, and there's no intent for their to be rules. Even if you join in, and he says "no, you can't do that with the Dukes of Hazard car" its not because he's playing a game, its because your doing something that conflicts with the story he's telling. Unless I'm wrong (which has been proven before in this thread), playing Pretend is not the same as playing a Game, despite people tacking the word "game" on there. D&D takes the concept of Pretend, and adds a bunch of formal rules. [/QUOTE]

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