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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 4796576" data-attributes="member: 30001">Can you provide a single historical example of the nobility counting beans in order for their lands to keep from collapsing?&nbsp; There are plenty of instances of the reverse - in fact the seperation of fief's made it almost essential that the various manors in Medieval Europe be able to function without input by the rulers since they actually can't be physically present to make most decisions.&nbsp; It wasn't unusual for them to ride around and collect the surplus, administer some justice (when the King's sherrifs weren't doing it) and move on.&nbsp;As I said, partying, hunting, and fighting in wars seemed to be the chief occupations of these folks.&nbsp; IMO they certainly would have been slogging through dungeons killing monsters and collecting treasure if there was any such thing as dungeons.&nbsp;What your saying AFAIK is not historical and certainly not fantasy.&nbsp; Granted, you could establish such a thing for your fantasy world, but I see no grounds for a general statement.&nbsp; I can't think of a story where King Arthur was balacing the books.&nbsp; If there's something of substance that has contributed to your opinion here I really would be interested to know what it is.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 4796576, member: 30001"] Can you provide a single historical example of the nobility counting beans in order for their lands to keep from collapsing? There are plenty of instances of the reverse - in fact the seperation of fief's made it almost essential that the various manors in Medieval Europe be able to function without input by the rulers since they actually can't be physically present to make most decisions. It wasn't unusual for them to ride around and collect the surplus, administer some justice (when the King's sherrifs weren't doing it) and move on. As I said, partying, hunting, and fighting in wars seemed to be the chief occupations of these folks. IMO they certainly would have been slogging through dungeons killing monsters and collecting treasure if there was any such thing as dungeons. What your saying AFAIK is not historical and certainly not fantasy. Granted, you could establish such a thing for your fantasy world, but I see no grounds for a general statement. I can't think of a story where King Arthur was balacing the books. If there's something of substance that has contributed to your opinion here I really would be interested to know what it is. [/QUOTE]

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