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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5089656" data-attributes="member: 22779">Now there is something I do disagree with actually.  That it's something that's become more prevalent now than before.  Dungeon crawls have been with us from the very, very beginning.  Heck, my Basic D&D book presumes that the ONLY place for adventure is the dungeon.  Video games use the kill/loot model because it's a very easy model.  It's easy to design for, easy for players to recognize and easy to make fun.  I don't think it's a case of video games informing RPG's, but rather a case that both mediums recognize a similar, successful approach.I'm not of the opinion that we started in this sort of role play nirvana and have devolved to nothing but hack N slash.  To me, it's probably stayed pretty much the same, with at least a lot more nods to those who don't like combat coming out in later games.</blockquote>