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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5091005" data-attributes="member: 22779">Sorry, The Shaman but no moving goalposts here.My point was that MOST people (not all) aren't willing to invest considerable time and effort into their hobbies.&nbsp; Nor did I ever say that TTRPG's are more mainstream than model trains or rock climbing.&nbsp; What I did say is that outside of niche hobbies, like TTRPG's, people are not willing to spend a great deal of effort on difficult hobbies.You responded with a couple of niche hobbies which require a great deal of effort.&nbsp; Wow, so, how is your point counter to mine?Me:&nbsp; TTRPG's require a large investment in time and effort.&nbsp; Most people don't want to bother.You:&nbsp; Hey, look at these two niche hobbies that have numbers similar to TTRPG players.&nbsp; They invest a lot of time and effort.Me:&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm&nbsp; &nbsp; :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />Ok, answer me this then.&nbsp; If people are willing to invest huge amounts of time and effort into difficult hobbies, then why does WOW have a user base about TEN times that of TTRPG's.&nbsp; Why isn't everyone jumping on the TTRPG bandwagon?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5091005, member: 22779"] Sorry, [b]The Shaman[/b] but no moving goalposts here. My point was that MOST people (not all) aren't willing to invest considerable time and effort into their hobbies. Nor did I ever say that TTRPG's are more mainstream than model trains or rock climbing. What I did say is that outside of niche hobbies, like TTRPG's, people are not willing to spend a great deal of effort on difficult hobbies. You responded with a couple of niche hobbies which require a great deal of effort. Wow, so, how is your point counter to mine? Me: TTRPG's require a large investment in time and effort. Most people don't want to bother. You: Hey, look at these two niche hobbies that have numbers similar to TTRPG players. They invest a lot of time and effort. Me: :erm: Ok, answer me this then. If people are willing to invest huge amounts of time and effort into difficult hobbies, then why does WOW have a user base about TEN times that of TTRPG's. Why isn't everyone jumping on the TTRPG bandwagon? [/QUOTE]

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