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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5092097" data-attributes="member: 22779">This is precisely what I wanted to say, and have some xp for saying it so much better than I could.  -----------RogueAttourneyAre you HONESTLY going to tell me that Basic/Expert D&D, as written, isn't about killing and looting?  Really?  Well, fair enough.  Fine.  People can obviously disagree.  Me, I'll stick to the idea that D&D has been about the hack, brought about by its wargaming roots, since day one.Just a question though.  These dwarven abilities you point out.  How long would it take my dwarf to survey a region and discover what minerals could be mined in that region?Oh, right, those mining "skills" have nothing to do with actually BUILDING or managing a mine.</blockquote>