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<blockquote data-quote="Umbra" data-source="post: 2721270" data-attributes="member: 17086">I voted no.Three experienced players introduced the game to four novices who made it clear that without the experienced players showing how the game worked, the novices would not have persisted in playing/learning the game.&nbsp; It's easier to play poker or a computer game or watch a dvd or go to the pub, etc.One initial reaction - 'I have to read that!' (in regards to the PHB)'No. Just these few pages to start with.'&nbsp; You can't just pick up the book(s) and start to play within a couple of hours without an experienced RPG'er involved (and preferably an experienced 3.5'er).&nbsp; Thus the issues of drawing new blood into RPG's and growing the hobby. If they buy a new board game, someone can sit with the rules and paraphernalia for a short while and have a reasonable understanding of how to play.&nbsp; If they are shown how to play, they can often be up and running within minutes (even if it takes longer to get a firm grip on the nuances).So, no.&nbsp; 3.5 is not an entry level game by itself.&nbsp; With experienced people involved it does become the entry point for many people.We need a &quot;My First RPG&quot; game&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Publishers - an acknowledgement in the credits will be enough! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbra, post: 2721270, member: 17086"] I voted no. Three experienced players introduced the game to four novices who made it clear that without the experienced players showing how the game worked, the novices would not have persisted in playing/learning the game. It's easier to play poker or a computer game or watch a dvd or go to the pub, etc. One initial reaction - 'I have to read that!' (in regards to the PHB) 'No. Just these few pages to start with.' You can't just pick up the book(s) and start to play within a couple of hours without an experienced RPG'er involved (and preferably an experienced 3.5'er). Thus the issues of drawing new blood into RPG's and growing the hobby. If they buy a new board game, someone can sit with the rules and paraphernalia for a short while and have a reasonable understanding of how to play. If they are shown how to play, they can often be up and running within minutes (even if it takes longer to get a firm grip on the nuances). So, no. 3.5 is not an entry level game by itself. With experienced people involved it does become the entry point for many people. We need a "My First RPG" game ;) [SIZE=1]Publishers - an acknowledgement in the credits will be enough![/SIZE] :) [/QUOTE]

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