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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wrecan" data-source="post: 5647802" data-attributes="member: 64825">Not in the context of the paragraph we're discussing.  The first sentence of the paragraph makes clear that the rest of the paragraph is simply categorizing different types of art.While "craft" in the abstract need not be art (depending on one's definition of "art"), in that paragraph, it is.Here is the first sentence of the wiki:"Art is the product or process of deliberately arranging items (often with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol" target="_blank">symbolic</a> significance) in a way that influences and affects one or more of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senses" target="_blank">senses</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotions" target="_blank">emotions</a>, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellect" target="_blank">intellect</a>."It does not include an intention to create art.  It includes an intention to affect the sense, emotions and intellect.  If that is your definition of art, then D&D should be included in it, as it affects the senses, emotions, and intellect.Fine.  But I don't believe your professors gave you a circular definition of art.  I have more faith in professors than that.Yes, he is.  And "intentionalism" does not use the circular definition of art that you did.  Because Wollheim is amore rigorous academic and he would define art in a more rigorous way.  (Which he does in his books.)For instance, the Noel Carroll excerpt you quote properly characterizes the intentionalist theory as art requiring an intent to produce something that is "aesthetic".  And "aesthetic" means "pleasing to the senses", which is probably where the wiki author devised that initial sentence that I quote above.  (And under whose definition, D&D would apply.)The two concepts need not be mutually exclusive, and certainly aren't under an intentionalist definition, as improvisational theater games are both intentionalist art (as there is an intent to create an aesthetically pleasing performance) and game (as there are some conventions of play, no predetermined outcome, and an intention to be diverted).</blockquote>

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