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<blockquote data-quote="Korgoth" data-source="post: 3761539" data-attributes="member: 49613">I agree, Steel_Wind.If someone is playing a half-dragon dude with wings and firebreath who can do a whole bunch of wuxia stunts... you're not really exploring a fantastic world anymore.&nbsp; You are the fantastic world at that point.&nbsp; Or if the fantastic is so prevalent that it is common, then the fantastic is really just an hysterical version of the mundane.Not that PCs should all have to be human farmers.&nbsp; Elves and Dwarves, for example, are really humans conforming to an established and intelligible archetype (&quot;trickster&quot; and &quot;adult&quot;, as a one sage put it).&nbsp; And I'm sure many of us have run a game with a dragon PC or something like that as a change of pace... but it's usually only just that, a change of pace.Fantasy gaming used to have a balance of the medieval and the fantastical that was intriguing.&nbsp; I still gravitate to that balance.&nbsp; But I can see that the Hasbro direction is going toward &quot;all awesome all the time&quot;, which is like saying (as you implied) &quot;all sauce and no meat&quot;, &quot;all seasoning and no entree&quot;.One could, if so inclined, write a fantasy game about Beholders: everybody's character is a Beholder.&nbsp; Either these Beholder characters would do the same sorts of things that humans do in other games, in which case there's really not much sense in them being Beholders, or else they would do only kooky alien Beholder activities.&nbsp; In the latter case, I think it would be hard for such a game to be very popular because it would be hard for most people to relate to it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Korgoth, post: 3761539, member: 49613"] I agree, Steel_Wind. If someone is playing a half-dragon dude with wings and firebreath who can do a whole bunch of wuxia stunts... you're not really exploring a fantastic world anymore. You [i]are[/i] the fantastic world at that point. Or if the fantastic is so prevalent that it is common, then the fantastic is really just an hysterical version of the mundane. Not that PCs should all have to be human farmers. Elves and Dwarves, for example, are really humans conforming to an established and intelligible archetype ("trickster" and "adult", as a one sage put it). And I'm sure many of us have run a game with a dragon PC or something like that as a change of pace... but it's usually only just that, a change of pace. Fantasy gaming used to have a balance of the medieval and the fantastical that was intriguing. I still gravitate to that balance. But I can see that the Hasbro direction is going toward "all awesome all the time", which is like saying (as you implied) "all sauce and no meat", "all seasoning and no entree". One could, if so inclined, write a fantasy game about Beholders: everybody's character is a Beholder. Either these Beholder characters would do the same sorts of things that humans do in other games, in which case there's really not much sense in them being Beholders, or else they would do only kooky alien Beholder activities. In the latter case, I think it would be hard for such a game to be very popular because it would be hard for most people to relate to it. [/QUOTE]

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