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<blockquote data-quote="Mad Mac" data-source="post: 3773112" data-attributes="member: 27873"><p>I guess you missed the post where I posted a few stats of the 3rd edition dragon, which is leagues stronger than the 3rd edition fighter, across the board. Better Breath Weapon, better magic, better melee, better everything. Besides, my original point was that a high-ish level 1E fighter can pound almost any monster in melee, not that he was completely invincible. </p><p></p><p> I didn't think my point was so subtle. Apparently, special attacks make a 3rd edition fighter more "fantastical" even though his ability to wade through reams of monsters is considerably less than the 1st edition fighter. The fact that a 1st edition fighter has fewer choices in combat does not make the aftermath of his dice-rolling any less superheroic. </p><p></p><p> Besides that, it's not like the classes even changed that much between editions. Trade the 1E Assassin out for the 3rd Edition Barbarian and add in the Sorc, and you're left with the same list of core classes. The only 1e edition classes who are non-magical are the Fighter, Thief, and Assassin. The only 3rd edition classes who are non-magical are the Fighter, Rogue, and Barbarian. Big shake-up there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mad Mac, post: 3773112, member: 27873"] I guess you missed the post where I posted a few stats of the 3rd edition dragon, which is leagues stronger than the 3rd edition fighter, across the board. Better Breath Weapon, better magic, better melee, better everything. Besides, my original point was that a high-ish level 1E fighter can pound almost any monster in melee, not that he was completely invincible. I didn't think my point was so subtle. Apparently, special attacks make a 3rd edition fighter more "fantastical" even though his ability to wade through reams of monsters is considerably less than the 1st edition fighter. The fact that a 1st edition fighter has fewer choices in combat does not make the aftermath of his dice-rolling any less superheroic. Besides that, it's not like the classes even changed that much between editions. Trade the 1E Assassin out for the 3rd Edition Barbarian and add in the Sorc, and you're left with the same list of core classes. The only 1e edition classes who are non-magical are the Fighter, Thief, and Assassin. The only 3rd edition classes who are non-magical are the Fighter, Rogue, and Barbarian. Big shake-up there. [/QUOTE]
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