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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8412633" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>Your post was in response to a statement made about something fighters & other martial characters previously had and should never have lost. Not only that, the example itself references one or two* problems casters previously but no longer have that probably should not have been lost either. Missing both of those things in order to make a sarcastic complaint that fighters don't also have caster abilities or that casters themselves have caster abilities is a bit silly.</p><p></p><p>With that said... hold monster is not an option either given the example conversation where the caster is saying <em>"I can't cast if it's in my face!"</em> that too is not an option even if the caster has it on their class list <em>and</em> has it known/prepared <em>and</em> has a suitable spell slot available to cast it with. Which goes back to the original point you avoided to complain that fighters don't have caster abilities too while someone was pointing out a martial character thing fighters <em>should</em> have as martial characters. That point is the fact that 5e fighters & other martial characters are not sticky like in past editions is just as serious as the fact that nobody in 5e feels squishy or really terrified of being in melee.</p><p></p><p>*edit: In the past a caster was terrified of being in melee with baddies because they tended to be squishy as hell due to low hp & low ac. 5e casters have much better ac much easier, much better HP, and frankly nobody is in any real danger of being killed due to how damage beyond zero just goes away with a bonus action healing word/healing light or any healing of at least 1hp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8412633, member: 93670"] Your post was in response to a statement made about something fighters & other martial characters previously had and should never have lost. Not only that, the example itself references one or two* problems casters previously but no longer have that probably should not have been lost either. Missing both of those things in order to make a sarcastic complaint that fighters don't also have caster abilities or that casters themselves have caster abilities is a bit silly. With that said... hold monster is not an option either given the example conversation where the caster is saying [I]"I can't cast if it's in my face!"[/I] that too is not an option even if the caster has it on their class list [I]and[/I] has it known/prepared [I]and[/I] has a suitable spell slot available to cast it with. Which goes back to the original point you avoided to complain that fighters don't have caster abilities too while someone was pointing out a martial character thing fighters [I]should[/I] have as martial characters. That point is the fact that 5e fighters & other martial characters are not sticky like in past editions is just as serious as the fact that nobody in 5e feels squishy or really terrified of being in melee. *edit: In the past a caster was terrified of being in melee with baddies because they tended to be squishy as hell due to low hp & low ac. 5e casters have much better ac much easier, much better HP, and frankly nobody is in any real danger of being killed due to how damage beyond zero just goes away with a bonus action healing word/healing light or any healing of at least 1hp. [/QUOTE]
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