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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nightfall" data-source="post: 349532" data-attributes="member: 374"><p>I have to agree. Why judge a fantasy game by the "quality used?" That to me speak of a GREAT biasied nature in any event. If you look over into the Sci-fi, fantasy section, you won't just see "Oh look there's a guy who was born ignornant of his past but is the heir to a great power!" compare to my perninal favorite Tolkien, whose heroes have such things thrust on them. Am I to believe that just because Tolkien was first, that he's the standard forever? No. Standards change. Take Stephen R. Donaldson! Or for that matter, Mickey Zuker Reichart! If we are to use such personal and not very rational standards based on the beliefs of a few, then why both reading ANYTHING in great literature? Fantasy existed BEFORE there was Tolkein. It's based on MYTHS, not environments! That why I can enjoy a Ravenloft game as much as Scarred Lands game. They are of a different MYTHOS than what people expect. Myths aren't based on a character predispotion to magic or if it's rational! IT's based on HUMAN characteristics! And as long as THEY are there, what does it matter WHICH system we use? Denigrating one system in favor of another by aribitrary standards, does no one ANY Good.  You Harn fans can enjoy what you like. It's your tastes. But please, don't suggest you have superiority merely because "Your myth" is seemingly more real that "our myth."</p></blockquote><p></p>