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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arcane Runes Press" data-source="post: 349878" data-attributes="member: 402">I'll throw out a couple of thoughts.First, I think "immaturity" as the Harn forum posts describe it, isn't immaturity at all. Rather, it's just a case of tastes clashing and one side deciding that their tastes are not just better for them, but universaly better.High fantasy isn't a more "immature" form of gaming, though IMO, high fantasy worlds require a firmer DM hand, as they tend to fly out of control more quickly than so-called "low fantasy" worlds do.On the other hand, I do think that their is an element of childishness (if you want to be negative about it) in RPGs in general. 1) Most systems (and players) favor fight, fight, fight as a resolution to all problems. Violence is the preferred method of problem solving, and even when a game professes not to favor combat, most players (that I have known) still favor violence. WW's Mage is a good example of this; in first edition you couldn't shake a stick without hitting a trench coat wearing, katana carrying "badass" mage. 2) Treasure, cool powers and magic items play a big part of most of the popular systems. D&D, WoD, Exalted, Rifts, one and all share an obsession with powerups and super dooper magic spells.In these ways, RPGs are very reminiscent of action movies. Personally, I see nothing wrong with that, though it would be nice to see games that break that mold achieve more popularity. Personally, I'd like to see the non-combat side of D&D more fully developed, either by a D20 publisher or by WotC itself. I'd like to see more high level spells that aren't focused around killing and destroying, for example. The question is, would gamers in general support such a product?I'm not sure, but I've been trying to incorporate some of that thinking into my recent manuscripts. I wrote a city sourcebook that is heavily influenced by the 14th-15th century Florence art scene, so it includes lots of descriptions of illusion art and paintings, and has lots of info on festivals and the like. I'm curious to see how it's received.    As always, IMO Patrick Y.</blockquote>

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