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<blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 349949" data-attributes="member: 5171"><p>Two random thoughts:</p><p></p><p>1) To use D&D terms to refer to D&D, I've always found it to be the Cleric of RPG systems. You can find a system that is more flexible than D&D, you can find a system that is easier to learn than D&D, and you can find a system that is more detailed and comprehensive than D&D, but you aren't gonna find one that is better in all three areas. D&D provides a decent level of all three, which makes it good for a lot of people. People who REALLY want a lot more flexibility can find a system that is harder to learn. People who REALLY want more realism can find a system that is slower. People who REALLY want faster games can find a system that is even less realistic and flexible with respect to character and game choices.</p><p></p><p>(Note: I say it's the cleric because I've always considered clerics to be the second best at just about everything. Second best behind the BAB=level people in melee combat in their armor and heavy weapons. Second best saves, next to druids and bards and right behind monks. Second best spells, with the ability to wear armor while casting spells that were only a bit less damaging than wizard spells, and a little spontaneous casting to mix it up. The cleric could be outfought by a fighter, outcast by a wizard, and outsaved by a monk, but they covered ALL categories better than most people.)</p><p></p><p>(Except skills, of course.)</p><p></p><p>2) Saying I don't get to use often enough: Don't confuse your opinion with reality. People on both sides of this fence get "I don't like to play that way, so that doesn't work for me" mixed up with "This system sucks!"</p><p></p><p>-Tacky</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takyris, post: 349949, member: 5171"] Two random thoughts: 1) To use D&D terms to refer to D&D, I've always found it to be the Cleric of RPG systems. You can find a system that is more flexible than D&D, you can find a system that is easier to learn than D&D, and you can find a system that is more detailed and comprehensive than D&D, but you aren't gonna find one that is better in all three areas. D&D provides a decent level of all three, which makes it good for a lot of people. People who REALLY want a lot more flexibility can find a system that is harder to learn. People who REALLY want more realism can find a system that is slower. People who REALLY want faster games can find a system that is even less realistic and flexible with respect to character and game choices. (Note: I say it's the cleric because I've always considered clerics to be the second best at just about everything. Second best behind the BAB=level people in melee combat in their armor and heavy weapons. Second best saves, next to druids and bards and right behind monks. Second best spells, with the ability to wear armor while casting spells that were only a bit less damaging than wizard spells, and a little spontaneous casting to mix it up. The cleric could be outfought by a fighter, outcast by a wizard, and outsaved by a monk, but they covered ALL categories better than most people.) (Except skills, of course.) 2) Saying I don't get to use often enough: Don't confuse your opinion with reality. People on both sides of this fence get "I don't like to play that way, so that doesn't work for me" mixed up with "This system sucks!" -Tacky [/QUOTE]
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