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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 350239" data-attributes="member: 5171">Hmmm... I think I misquoted myself.  I was saying that the CLERIC doesn't do skills as well as everyone else, not that D&D itself doesn't do skills as well...As for GURPS, it's definitely flexible, but I'd debate its speed.  I might lose the debate, and there'd be long arguments over certain sections, but I'd argue that a big bad boss fight in GURPS can take longer to work through than a similar fight in D&D, with people on both sides doing the same types of things (ie, attacks, spells, etc).  Like I said, I could be wrong, and perhaps I'm just so ingrained in the D&D system that I had my head screwed on wrong, but the GURPS stuff I've done seemed realistic and flexible, but not faster.  And the flexibility of GURPS modules makes it harder to learn -- swashbuckling rules, martial arts rules, etc.  It's fantastic for getting just the right campaign flavor, but it means more stuff to learn.  Again, please, correct me if I'm wrong -- I am so very very very very far from an expert.As for skills, though...:Does the flat 5% increment of the D20 system make it less realistic, and therefore, more childish?  Does the 3d6 system of GURPS, which results in a weight much more toward the average, result in more realistic fights (as opposed to "I held the door shut even though I'm a bookworm and the barbarian on the other side is a weightlifter")?  It's always been a source of mild frustration for me, that someone's ability could vary so wildly -- an untrained skill check that beats the skill check of someone with 6 ranks, and so forth.  It adds that level of randomness... Dunno if that's a factor in this discussion or not.-Tacky</blockquote>

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