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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Agglomérante" data-source="post: 358064" data-attributes="member: 7340">"Fish don't know water exists until they're beached."We can probably come up with a much longer list of the similarities between D&D and Harn if we consider the experience of play in the context of something like, oh, I dunno, Yahtzee. Consider the Yahtzee player, all wide-eyed and excited over his empty dice. Sad, yes. But the typical Yahtzee player doesn't spend 10 hours a week playing or thinking about Yahtzee. Why would he? His dice are empty.Life is time. The content of Harn, of D&D, is you. Hence the tension in this kind of conversation. There's so much at stake. Is the rpg a medium? Yes. Gygax is the Marconi of home theatre.Is it art? Yes.Is it respected? No.Why? Because it's immature.Why? Because that's the only way it's fun.fun. immature. art.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> D&D knitted randomness to storytelling to me, and tv's been boring ever since.Agglomérante</blockquote>