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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 358389" data-attributes="member: 151">Re: Re: Is D&D/D20 Childish and Immature?I'm guessing you don't read or haven't read many comic books in the last decade or so.  That's a pretty broad brush to paint with, and I think you'd be suprised the kind of intelligent writing that you can find in comic books, with or without superheroes.  If you're interested, we can start a separate thread to discuss this.  I think you'd be well rewarded.Hmmm.  Well, this sounds like your attributing the behaviors of some of the rudest people you've met to the whole, which is unfortunate, although it's your perogative.  Having been playing since 1980 (as quite a few of us on this board have been), I think I can say with some certainty that you're wrong, 'twinks' exist in every game I've ever played.  Whether it's MERP, GURPS, EotPT, T&T, Star Frontiers, Bushido, V&V or Hero...it's still the same.  Now, I also think you're mixing and matching powergamers with disruptive 'wish-fulfillers', of which the game saw many back in the early 80s.  The former see the game as a tactical exercise, which is a valid playstyle, and merely seek to play the game as optimally as possible.  The latter, which you lump in with them, are jerks who want to use a game to tell stories of how they beat a dragon with a 1st level character.  It's been my experience that such players drop out of the game after a short while; you can only play a character with solid 18s for so long, before the whole exercise becomes a waste of time.  The former CAN be immature, but isn't necessarily.  As for the most irritating players coming from D&D, well...if there are 2 million active D&D players, and only 25,000 playing game 'X', then you're going to see more of every kind of player for D&D.  I'm sure there are D&D 'snobs'.  Every game system, in every variation, has it's proponents.  There are many players who are still into 1st edition rules, and defend them vigorously.  All you need to do to illustrate this is start one of the classic 'battle' thread subjects, such as "GURPS vs. D&D" or "1e vs. 2e vs. 3e" or "Rolemaster vs. D&D" or....well, this thread. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />The lesson you should walk away from this thread with is this: If the only way you can make yourself feel better is to denigrate others, then you're not going to win many hearts or minds.  KK is doing more to dissuade people from trying Harn than any single source I've seen in 20 years of gaming.  Which is too bad, because it always looked like an interesting setting.</blockquote>

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