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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7723342" data-attributes="member: 22779">I'm still rather baffled how anyone can look at things like 5e being in the top 100 on Amazon for THREE YEARS and still be convinced of failure.&nbsp; Good grief, how many books do they have to sell.&nbsp; 7th printing in three years?&nbsp; How is that not fantastic?&nbsp; Put it in perspective.&nbsp; From <a href="https://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/setpages/dmg.html" target="_blank"> The Acaeum</a>, the 1e DMG hit it's seventh print run in 1981.&nbsp; From the 1st print run in 1979.&nbsp; So, yup, going by print runs, 1e is still a bit faster, but, not hugely.&nbsp; And, note, the 8th print run doesn't come out for 1e until 1983.&nbsp; Now, we have pretty much no idea of how big those print runs are.&nbsp; We really don't.&nbsp; So, this is pretty voodoo numbers here.&nbsp; Totally chicken guts time.&nbsp; But, judging from how fast they bang out a new print run, 5e looks to be on the same pace as 1e during the fad years.I mean, again, from <a href="https://www.acaeum.com/library/printrun.html" target="_blank">The Acaeum</a>, the first three print runs were only 40000 copies each in 1e.&nbsp; We're pegging numbers of 5e of several times that.What evidence is required to show that 5e is doing really, really well?Put it in perspective.&nbsp; Starfinder is the only non-WotC&nbsp; book in the top ten of Gaming on Amazon.&nbsp; It's pegged at 455 in books.&nbsp; Remember, this is the number 2 company right?&nbsp; As I write this, the D&amp;D Starter Set is sitting at 755 in books.&nbsp; All the WotC core D&amp;D books are in the top 200 of books.&nbsp; IOW, the best selling book from the number two company is selling just a bit better than a 3 year old starter box.&nbsp; Note, that as I write this, 13 of the top 20 best selling Fantasy Games products come from WotC.&nbsp; How is that not good news for WotC?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7723342, member: 22779"] I'm still rather baffled how anyone can look at things like 5e being in the top 100 on Amazon for THREE YEARS and still be convinced of failure. Good grief, how many books do they have to sell. 7th printing in three years? How is that not fantastic? Put it in perspective. From [url=https://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/setpages/dmg.html] The Acaeum[/url], the 1e DMG hit it's seventh print run in 1981. From the 1st print run in 1979. So, yup, going by print runs, 1e is still a bit faster, but, not hugely. And, note, the 8th print run doesn't come out for 1e until 1983. Now, we have pretty much no idea of how big those print runs are. We really don't. So, this is pretty voodoo numbers here. Totally chicken guts time. But, judging from how fast they bang out a new print run, 5e looks to be on the same pace as 1e during the fad years. I mean, again, from [url=https://www.acaeum.com/library/printrun.html]The Acaeum[/url], the first three print runs were only 40000 copies each in 1e. We're pegging numbers of 5e of several times that. What evidence is required to show that 5e is doing really, really well? Put it in perspective. Starfinder is the only non-WotC book in the top ten of Gaming on Amazon. It's pegged at 455 in books. Remember, this is the number 2 company right? As I write this, the D&D Starter Set is sitting at 755 in books. All the WotC core D&D books are in the top 200 of books. IOW, the best selling book from the number two company is selling just a bit better than a 3 year old starter box. Note, that as I write this, 13 of the top 20 best selling Fantasy Games products come from WotC. How is that not good news for WotC? [/QUOTE]

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