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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 699675" data-attributes="member: 2205">Actually, I suspect many of those things will not appear in the revised 3e, including more generic classes, Reputation, Massive Damage Rule (actually, it does exist in D&amp;D, it's just a 50 hp from one hit threshhold which means it isn't invoked all that often), etc.&nbsp; Those aren't D&amp;D.Really, though, even though I agree with you, I don't see what the problem is.&nbsp; All d20 games are essentially similar enough that you can port any mechanic into or out of D&amp;D as you see fit.&nbsp; If I were to start running a game again tomorrow, I'd run d20 Modern modified a little bit in terms of skills and feats to play in an Iron Kingdom's type of setting, with a bunch of elements from CoC added in, like Sanity and the CoC-style magic.&nbsp; Because this is so easily done, for those who have that taste, there's really no reason to diss D&amp;D itself.&nbsp; D&amp;D, the way it is written, most likely appeals to the majority of gamers out there, and for those of us to whom it doesn't as much, the same d20 mechanic has already been tweaked to fit our tastes more as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 699675, member: 2205"] Actually, I suspect many of those things will [i]not[/i] appear in the revised 3e, including more generic classes, Reputation, Massive Damage Rule (actually, it does exist in D&D, it's just a 50 hp from one hit threshhold which means it isn't invoked all that often), etc. Those aren't D&D. Really, though, even though I agree with you, I don't see what the problem is. All d20 games are essentially similar enough that you can port any mechanic into or out of D&D as you see fit. If I were to start running a game again tomorrow, I'd run d20 Modern modified a little bit in terms of skills and feats to play in an Iron Kingdom's type of setting, with a bunch of elements from CoC added in, like Sanity and the CoC-style magic. Because this is so easily done, for those who have that taste, there's really no reason to diss D&D itself. D&D, the way it is written, most likely appeals to the majority of gamers out there, and for those of us to whom it doesn't as much, the same d20 mechanic has already been tweaked to fit our tastes more as well. [/QUOTE]

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