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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wyrmshadows" data-source="post: 4042068" data-attributes="member: 56166">Thanks for responding, keep up the insights.My point really boils down to:Can D&D, by the book, based on the assumptions of the game and not individual campaigns, support a game that makes epic levels more meaningful than just cosmic dungeoncrawls? If we look at the myths of our cultures these mythic heroes like Beowulf, Achilles, and Hercules are exceedingly powerful but their stories become foundational tales representing the values of their cultures. Should D&D RAW give help to DMs providing them with tools to make the PCs epic characters more than silly fantasy superheroes and instead icons upon whom faiths, knightly orders, empires and whatnot are built upon?I believe that WoTC should push epic play in this direction as opposed to epic dungeoncrawls which IMO are, at this level banal in the extreme.Also, should D&D transform paragon level heroes (lvls 10-20) into supernatually empowered superheroes who can rip down temples to evil dieties with their raw strength, wrestle dragons, shake the earth with the strike of their warhammer, etc. at epic levels (lvls 21-30)?Your thoughts are appreciated.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Wyrmshadows</blockquote>