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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Boots" data-source="post: 7733484" data-attributes="member: 92239">Not to be contrary, but this is going to sound that way.If I'm with a group of people in a car and we get pulled over by a cop, the &quot;face&quot; is going to be the sober guy driving and not the rest of us who have been drinking all night.If I'm with a group of people at work and we're in a meeting, the &quot;face&quot; is going to be the person we all defer to &quot;the person with the best chance of getting what we want done&quot;.If I'm a teenager and on a hockey team, there's the captain of the team who is going to get better girls and teach us how to get better girls ourselves.&nbsp; He's the &quot;face&quot;&quot;Face&quot; activity in RPGs is not metagaming.&nbsp; It happens every day in real life and it's entirely realistic.&nbsp; If I'm a dwarf fighter with a CHA of 8, and at least a passing WiS, provided that I'm going to get in trouble if I don't let the Bard CHA 18 speak for me, I'm going to.&nbsp; After that works once, I'm more likely to shut up and let it happen again within the same boundaries.&nbsp; Just like the drunk buddies, work associates or hockey jocks above.Of course, the &quot;face&quot; isn't always going to be there for me.&nbsp; That's the breaks.Thanks,KB</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kobold Boots, post: 7733484, member: 92239"] Not to be contrary, but this is going to sound that way. If I'm with a group of people in a car and we get pulled over by a cop, the "face" is going to be the sober guy driving and not the rest of us who have been drinking all night. If I'm with a group of people at work and we're in a meeting, the "face" is going to be the person we all defer to "the person with the best chance of getting what we want done". If I'm a teenager and on a hockey team, there's the captain of the team who is going to get better girls and teach us how to get better girls ourselves. He's the "face" "Face" activity in RPGs is not metagaming. It happens every day in real life and it's entirely realistic. If I'm a dwarf fighter with a CHA of 8, and at least a passing WiS, provided that I'm going to get in trouble if I don't let the Bard CHA 18 speak for me, I'm going to. After that works once, I'm more likely to shut up and let it happen again within the same boundaries. Just like the drunk buddies, work associates or hockey jocks above. Of course, the "face" isn't always going to be there for me. That's the breaks. Thanks, KB [/QUOTE]

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