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Message: <blockquote data-quote="firstkyne" data-source="post: 6877611" data-attributes="member: 6805928">The optional rule for disarming (DMG p271) is as follows:[HQ]A creature can use a weapon attack to knock a weapon or another item from a target's grasp. The attacker makes an attack roll contested by the target's Strength (Athletics) check or Dexterity (Acrobatics) check. If the attacker wins the contest, the attack causes no damage or other ill effect, but the defender drops the item.The attacker has disadvantage on its attack roll if the target is holding the item with two or more hands. The target has advantage on its ability check if it is larger than the attacking creature, or disadvantage if it is smaller.[/HQ]It doesn't specify where the dropped weapon lands, so it seems reasonable to assume that it lands in the same square as the owner.However, it seems that picking up an object (such as a dropped weapon) can be part of a creatures movement during it's turn, which means that it can pick up the weapon before making an attack. End result? Disarming is pointless.Is it correct that a creature could just pick up the weapon? Perhaps Disarm only works in conjunction with a second action on the part of the attacker: to grab the weapon, to kick it away, or to shove the creature away from the square where the weapon lands. Is that the intention  of the writers, do you think? It seems convoluted. The whole rule section seems unfinished. Am I missing something?UPDATE: Thanks for all the replies. I am tending towards a house ruling.INTERACTING WITH OBJECTS AROUND YOU OPTIONAL RULE VARIANTThis rule amends the rules for interacting with an object as part of your movement (PHB 190). It makes interacting more risky when engaged in melee. In particular, it makes the optional Disarm Action rule (DMG p271) more effective, because it becomes more dangerous to pick up a dropped item whilst engaged in melee.[HQ]Here are a few examples of the sorts of thing you can do in tandem with your movement and action:• draw or sheathe a sword• withdraw a potion from your backpack• remove a ring from your finger• stuff some carried food into your mouth• plant a banner in the ground• fish a few coins from your belt pouch• drink all the ale in a flagon• pull the hood of your cloak up and over your head• turn a key in a lock• tap the floor with a 10-foot pole• hand an item to another character[/HQ]NEW: while engaged in melee, interacting with an object that is not held or on your person  grants an attack of opportunity (a reaction, as per PHB p195).• open or close a door• take a bauble from a table• pick up a dropped axe• throw a lever or a switch• pull a torch from a sconce• take a book from a shelf you can reach• extinguish a small flame• put your ear to a door• kick a small stone• stuff some carried food from a plate into your mouth• pick up a mask to don itDISARMING (DMG p271) OPTIONAL RULE VARIANT[HQ]A creature can use a weapon attack to knock a weapon or another item from a target's grasp. The attacker makes an attack roll contested by the target's Strength (Athletics) check or Dexterity (Acrobatics) check. The attacker has disadvantage on its attack roll if the target is holding the item with two or more hands. The target has advantage on its ability check if it is larger than the attacking creature, or disadvantage if it is smaller.If the attacker wins the contest, the attack causes no damage or other ill effect, but the defender drops the item.[/HQ]NEW: The attacker may elect to send the item flying to land in a random space adjacent to the target (DMs choice) by repeating the contest and winning. Alternatively, the attacker may elect to catch the item by repeating the contest using Dexterity (Acrobatics). Catching the item is a free action.DISARMING (DMG p271) OPTIONAL RULE VARIANT 2NEW: If this makes Disarm too powerful in your game, then apply the following:Make normal Attack to see if you hit the object in the targets hand. If you succeed, hold a quick contest of Strength (Athletics) or Dexterity (Acrobatics) versus target's Strength (Athletics) or Dexterity (Acrobatics).By increasing the number of rolls required to succeed, this increases the chance of failure.BATTLEMASTER’S DISARMING ATTACK FEATURE (PHB p74) OPTIONAL RULE VARIANT[HQ]Disarming Attack. When you hit a creature with a weapon attack, you can expend one superiority die to attempt to disarm the target, forcing it to drop one item of your choice that it’s holding. You add the superiority die to the attack’s damage roll, and the target must make a Strength saving throw. On a failed save, it drops the object you choose. [/HQ]NEW: The object flies to land in a space adjacent to the creature (Player’s choice). It has no force, so does not harm bystanders.NEW: DISARMING A CREATURE INSTEAD OF KILLING IT OPTIONAL RULEThis is an optional rule that works similarly to Knocking a Creature Out (PHB p198). Sometimes an attacker wants to intimidate a foe with his superior combat skill rather than kill them. When an attacker reduces a creature to 0 hit points with a melee attack, the attacker can, instead, disarm the creature. The attacker can make this choice the instant the damage is dealt. the attack causes no damage or other ill effect, but the defender drops the item.The attacker may elect to send the item flying to land in a random space adjacent to the target (DMs choice) by repeating the contest and winning. Alternatively, the attacker may elect to catch the item by repeating the contest using Dexterity (Acrobatics). Catching the item is a free action.FOR REFERENCE: OPPORTUNITY ATTACKS (PHB p195)[HQ]You can make an opportunity attack when a hostile creature that you can see moves out of your reach. To make the opportunity attack, you use your reaction to make one melee attack against the provoking creature. The attack interrupts the provoking creature’s movement, occurring right before the creature leaves your reach.[/HQ]A late contender from Wheelerbear Cub:DISARMING OPTIONAL RULE VARIANTA creature can use one of their weapon attacks to knock a weapon or object from a target's grasp. The attacker makes an attack roll contested by the target's Athletics check or Acrobatics check. If the attacker wins the contest, the attack causes no damage and the defender drops the item.Modifiers• The attacker has disadvantage if the target is holding the item with two or more hands.• The target has advantage if it is larger than the attacking creature, or disadvantage if it is smaller.Results• For every 5 points higher than the defender's ability check, the attacker may send the item flying to land in a space 5 feet from the target.• If the weapon object lands in the same space as the defender, either creature can use their Reaction to try to catch the object with an Acrobatics check (DC is 10+base damage die).• If both parties try to catch the object, the higher successful roll wins.</blockquote>

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