Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Is DM fiat okay?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3136143" data-attributes="member: 3929"><p>I can't have imagined that there wasn't one; it helps to define the subject of discussion.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It can be if the players are questioning his cards, and the DM says, "Quit questioning me about what I'm holding, get back to the game." This is problematic when the players <em>think</em> the DM is changing his cards to counter what the players have but he actually isn't.</p><p></p><p>If you disallow this kind of DM Fiat, then the only way for the players to make sure the DM is "playing fiar", is to force the DM to reveal his hand.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, the DM should have a reasonable explanation for why his NPCs do the things they do. And I agree that no DM should have to show his notes to the players; I find the notion of players auditing the DM offensive. So in this regard, a DM using Fiat to say, "I have a reason, so back off; who's turn is it?" is perfectly acceptable.</p><p></p><p>DM Fiat to say, "I am unclear as to this particular rule I didn't expect, so I'm going to rule it this way for now, and decide after the game what we'll do for now on." is also perfectly reasonable.</p><p></p><p>EDIT</p><p></p><p>Schweeet! 2000 posts! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felix, post: 3136143, member: 3929"] I can't have imagined that there wasn't one; it helps to define the subject of discussion. It can be if the players are questioning his cards, and the DM says, "Quit questioning me about what I'm holding, get back to the game." This is problematic when the players [i]think[/i] the DM is changing his cards to counter what the players have but he actually isn't. If you disallow this kind of DM Fiat, then the only way for the players to make sure the DM is "playing fiar", is to force the DM to reveal his hand. Yes, the DM should have a reasonable explanation for why his NPCs do the things they do. And I agree that no DM should have to show his notes to the players; I find the notion of players auditing the DM offensive. So in this regard, a DM using Fiat to say, "I have a reason, so back off; who's turn is it?" is perfectly acceptable. DM Fiat to say, "I am unclear as to this particular rule I didn't expect, so I'm going to rule it this way for now, and decide after the game what we'll do for now on." is also perfectly reasonable. EDIT Schweeet! 2000 posts! :D [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Is DM fiat okay?
Top