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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 2082212" data-attributes="member: 20741">You see...I have seen this repeated often&nbsp; - and I'm not buying into it at all.How does a magazine that features &quot;rules&quot; get to be for players?Is everyone else as baffled by this as I am?&nbsp; Am I the only DM in town who makes the rules? All you young whippernsapper DMs allow the PCs to make the rules?Allowing the PCs to make the campaign now too?&nbsp; Since when is a new campaign setting a player directed article?Sorry. I've read the spin. I've seen &quot;the Dragon for players; Dungeon for DMs&quot; party line back during the realauch. Problem is, it just does not bear up to the most cursory scrutiny at all.More to the point, Erik Mona has said that he does *not* intend Dragon to be just for players.&nbsp; And it does nothing to address the fact that &quot;rules&quot; is something we just don't need Dragon for anymore.&nbsp; We have more crunch, offical and unoffical than we can use.Well. It can be for players. It can be for DMs. It can be for one-legged shetland ponies into consensual bondage for all I care.Right now - it isn't for me. And the anecdotal evidence on ENworld lately is that it isn't for a lot of other people here, either.edit: Ok Erik. I await the changes.&nbsp; You improved Dungeon for the most part, so I'll try to keep an open mind.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 2082212, member: 20741"] You see...I have seen this repeated often - and I'm not buying into it at all. How does a magazine that features "rules" get to be for players? Is everyone else as baffled by this as I am? Am I the only DM in town who makes the rules? All you young whippernsapper DMs allow the PCs to make the rules? Allowing the PCs to make the campaign now too? Since when is a new campaign setting a player directed article? Sorry. I've read the spin. I've seen "the Dragon for players; Dungeon for DMs" party line back during the realauch. Problem is, it just does not bear up to the most cursory scrutiny at all. More to the point, Erik Mona has said that he does *not* intend Dragon to be just for players. And it does nothing to address the fact that "rules" is something we just don't need Dragon for anymore. We have more crunch, offical and unoffical than we can use. Well. It can be for players. It can be for DMs. It can be for one-legged shetland ponies into consensual bondage for all I care. Right now - it isn't for me. And the anecdotal evidence on ENworld lately is that it isn't for a lot of other people here, either. edit: Ok Erik. I await the changes. You improved Dungeon for the most part, so I'll try to keep an open mind. [/QUOTE]

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