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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 2086150" data-attributes="member: 2477">neglecting the fact that not everyone is on ENWorld, those of us that ARE on here and happy with Dragon may not go into those threads, since they devolve into multi-page discussions with nothing useful for me.You do seem to ignore the rate during Second Edition.But more than that, Dragon costs 38.95 a year. Roughly two of the new books. With that you get loads of ad's of course, but plenty of good material mixed in. I'm certainly getting more value out of the 1200 (minus ad's) pages of Dragon vs most of the 3rd party material I was buying. The Wizards books are good overall, but still hit or miss.The material is scattered out over 12 issues certainly, and it's not all great material, but I do usually get something useful out of each magazine, even if it's just something to read while doing Laundry.I can see room for improvement, but then I'm happy with the current stuff too. I subscribe to both Dragon and Dungeon and have been happy with them. I was bored, so I read page one of this thread, but it's already up to Page 3 by now, and frankly following the thread isn't worth it for me. I'm sure plenty of other folks that are happy with Dragon and Dungeon also don't follow these threads, so don't think a bunch of people nagging about the magazines is any indication of something.</blockquote>