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Is Dual Spells Feat balanced?
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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1290191" data-attributes="member: 5777"><p>Your post confuses me. Ray of enfeeblement does not stack with itself. If you cast it on the same creature twice in a row it will still only do d6+x or (d6+X)*1.5. If you feel that this spell is too powerful that is a beef for another thread <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Some of us didnt have a problem with the old haste, keeping it strickly arcane was one of the few reasons left to even play a mage anyway. Nukeing the few spells that had durations longer than a few minutes and killing the ability to cast multiples of the now near useless buffs is just a horrible way to go.</p><p></p><p>There are a lot of feats out there that try to fix this. Quicken is the big one that people compare with and really it is about 2 levels too high in cost. ESPECIALLY with the new loss of the ability to cast more than one spell in a round usefully.</p><p></p><p>This feat does have a few problems, but really the main one is that it is near useless at higher levels. Yes, you read that correctly, near useless. Once you hit around level 12 or so about 50% of monsters have SR naturally and at least 25% of npcs (these are my guesses for a normal campaign, everyone I have been in has been 75%+ for monsters and 60%+ for npc's at this level). Any sr at all kills this caster for anything offensive. As for anything defensive most groups that like to live know when to toss down a dispel magic or two now and then. Spells cast with this are going to be taken out nearly all of the time by SR or dispelling. Plus you can only cast lower level stuff.</p><p></p><p>All in all I think this feat still needs a little work to fix up the parts that might be overpowered, but as it stands it definately isnt the end all and be all that people are making it out to be. It has some huge weaknesses, and they fall right into the areas that creatures already go to for protection.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scion, post: 1290191, member: 5777"] Your post confuses me. Ray of enfeeblement does not stack with itself. If you cast it on the same creature twice in a row it will still only do d6+x or (d6+X)*1.5. If you feel that this spell is too powerful that is a beef for another thread ;) Some of us didnt have a problem with the old haste, keeping it strickly arcane was one of the few reasons left to even play a mage anyway. Nukeing the few spells that had durations longer than a few minutes and killing the ability to cast multiples of the now near useless buffs is just a horrible way to go. There are a lot of feats out there that try to fix this. Quicken is the big one that people compare with and really it is about 2 levels too high in cost. ESPECIALLY with the new loss of the ability to cast more than one spell in a round usefully. This feat does have a few problems, but really the main one is that it is near useless at higher levels. Yes, you read that correctly, near useless. Once you hit around level 12 or so about 50% of monsters have SR naturally and at least 25% of npcs (these are my guesses for a normal campaign, everyone I have been in has been 75%+ for monsters and 60%+ for npc's at this level). Any sr at all kills this caster for anything offensive. As for anything defensive most groups that like to live know when to toss down a dispel magic or two now and then. Spells cast with this are going to be taken out nearly all of the time by SR or dispelling. Plus you can only cast lower level stuff. All in all I think this feat still needs a little work to fix up the parts that might be overpowered, but as it stands it definately isnt the end all and be all that people are making it out to be. It has some huge weaknesses, and they fall right into the areas that creatures already go to for protection. [/QUOTE]
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