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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lostdwarf" data-source="post: 5661062" data-attributes="member: 85751">First let me say that I have always seen essentials as an option, not a choice of PHB characters or essentials characters.  You can mix and match at the same table with zero issues.  Essentials takes nothing away from the existing player that PHB3 didn't take away from the existing character.  Ignore those who wail and beat their breasts otherwise. If you want to own fewer books/spend less money then essentials may be for you.  The pre-essentails system was up to something like a dozen hardbacks, and a huge amount of system mastery, if you wanted "all" the character creation options. If you want to be able to make a character, by hand, on a piece of paper, in a few minutes, then essentials is for  you.  While I at times enjoy complex character design systems, there is a great appeal to being able to sit down, make charcters without a spread sheet or computer program, and be playing in 15 minutes if you want to. If you are a retro-clone/old school/cranky grognard gamer then essentials may be for you.  Many of the builds were built as homages to early editions of the game.  If you miss the experience of the old school fighter of thief, but want to play with 4th ed rules, play essentials. Some classes do retain the AED structure.  Some don't.  Some (say the wizard) can be mixed to a large extent with previous version of the wizard.  Other classes are pretty much their own thing.  Its a real mixed bag, and its designed to give different types of experiences.  And as I said, with and insider subscription or ownership of the afore mentioned huge pile of books, nothing stops you from building a AEDU figher to adventure with my essentials Warpriest.  I play both types of characters and have had both types of characters in the games I have run.  For some builds I enjoy the new Essentials (greatly like the new Druid over the PHB2 one) on others I like the old (I find the spell lists for Essentials Wizards to be a bit lacking, but some DMs let you mix and match.)</blockquote>

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