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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jefe Bergenstein" data-source="post: 6513616" data-attributes="member: 31506">In most adventure paths I've seen, you aren't even aware that the world needs saving until the mid point. Granted, I haven't read HoDQ, but the ones I am familiar with (Runelords, Savage Tide, Age of Worms) don't tip their hands at level 1. Clues are sprinkled along the way, and the adventures feed into one another. Like, I don't even think you hear Karzoug's name until the end of the 4th adventure, so that's only the last 2 segments of "save the world". Previously its 1) kill some goblins 2) solve some murders 3) save a fort 4) save the cityWhich is the normal ramp up I'd expect in a heroic adventure path/campaign. There's no world shattering urgency until the last 2 adventures, which is campaign endgame. AP's really arent suited to sandbox style games (really no single published adventure product is), so expecting a module to adapt to whatever your players want to spend their high levels doing is unrealistic. And as evidenced from the "what to do with gold" threads, lots of players aren't interested in running a kingdom or playing politics. They signed on for Dungeons and Dragons, not Taxes & Treaties. This style of AP is right up their alley. What the kingdom/army builder player needs is a good sourcebook and GM advice, since anything tightly woven enough to be called an adventure path is probably already too rail roady.</blockquote>