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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7893876" data-attributes="member: 93670">I agree that moving through a crowd is probably more wis, int, or flat out intimidate....&nbsp; The charisma is probably the tendency to apply charisma with an overly&nbsp;&nbsp; broad net for anything that involves interacting with others outside of combat but stealth in an urban environment&nbsp; like sharn for <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsVtHqICeKE" target="_blank">this</a> &amp; <a href="https://fate-srd.com/fate-system-toolkit/other-skill-functions" target="_blank">this kinda stuff</a> has nothing to do with &quot;stealth&quot; &amp; often little to do with charisma[USER=7017930]@Anoth[/USER] Deception is another overly broad skill that tends to be interpreted as any misleading statement rather than just general verbal bullshitting.&nbsp;&nbsp; the fact that there are no charisma trappings noted&nbsp; for the various other skills makes it worse because there is a need to think how to stretch those skills to cover the situations they should... it doesn't help that a lot of gm's will just reflexively say no to can I use $skill to convince this guy I'm $thing that skill(normalStat) or even skill(cha)&nbsp; should cover because phb175 skills with different ability scores is a variant rule without the structure needed to really apply it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7893876, member: 93670"] I agree that moving through a[I] crowd [/I]is probably more wis, int, or flat out intimidate.... The charisma is probably the tendency to apply charisma with an overly broad net for anything that involves interacting with others outside of combat but stealth in an urban environment like sharn for [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsVtHqICeKE']this[/URL] & [URL='https://fate-srd.com/fate-system-toolkit/other-skill-functions']this kinda stuff[/URL] has nothing to do with "stealth" & often little to do with charisma [USER=7017930]@Anoth[/USER] Deception is another overly broad skill that tends to be interpreted as any misleading statement rather than just general verbal bullshitting. the fact that there are no charisma trappings noted for the various other skills makes it worse because there is a need to think how to stretch those skills to cover the situations they should... it doesn't help that a lot of gm's will just reflexively say no to can I use $skill to convince this guy I'm $thing that skill(normalStat) or even skill(cha) [I]should[/I] cover because phb175 skills with different ability scores is a [I]variant[/I] rule without the structure needed to really apply it. [/QUOTE]

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