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<blockquote data-quote="Beleriphon" data-source="post: 7894285" data-attributes="member: 27847"><p>Yes, but ducking behind a tree or bushes isn't really that different than ducking behind a rubbish bin or a parked car. Not walking on broken glass is the same as avoiding loose leaves. Crossing a street to is similar to crossing a clearing.</p><p></p><p>My point isn't that they are identical, but rather an expert at being stealthy can use the same principles regardless of environment. The stealth rules still require the character to actually be unobserved, regardless of how they get to that state.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Given that stealth checks are either individual affairs, or used a group check where at least half the group must succeed it seems relatively reasonable that an expert at being stealthy would be an expert at being stealthy. The ranger is still an expert at his chosen stealthiness, the rogue just happens to be better at it in general, that really shouldn't negate the ranger's abilities to do his thing in the same way using say Arcana or Religion as a pass/fail for information.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beleriphon, post: 7894285, member: 27847"] Yes, but ducking behind a tree or bushes isn't really that different than ducking behind a rubbish bin or a parked car. Not walking on broken glass is the same as avoiding loose leaves. Crossing a street to is similar to crossing a clearing. My point isn't that they are identical, but rather an expert at being stealthy can use the same principles regardless of environment. The stealth rules still require the character to actually be unobserved, regardless of how they get to that state. Given that stealth checks are either individual affairs, or used a group check where at least half the group must succeed it seems relatively reasonable that an expert at being stealthy would be an expert at being stealthy. The ranger is still an expert at his chosen stealthiness, the rogue just happens to be better at it in general, that really shouldn't negate the ranger's abilities to do his thing in the same way using say Arcana or Religion as a pass/fail for information. [/QUOTE]
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