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<blockquote data-quote="WayOfTheFourElements" data-source="post: 7372402" data-attributes="member: 6904757"><p>The revised ranger is from Unearthed Arcana, which isn't even official material. I could have been printed in XGtE, but wasn't deemed worthy (for whatever reason), just like skill feats. They are a non-issue and irrelevant to our discussion. They are even less of an issue that completely optional rules, like feats and multi-classing.</p><p></p><p>As for skills and classes, the problem isn't necessarily that this specific rogue knows the cleric's specific religion better than he does.</p><p></p><p>The problem is that going by the PHB and standard point-buy, a 20th level rogue with 8 intelligence and just so happens to specialize in religion (+11 Religion) will know just as much about the part cleric's religion as the 20th level cleric with 20 intelligence (+11 Religion) <strong>ever can</strong>. </p><p></p><p>Yes, the DM can hand-wave skills for the part cleric, or grant the cleric advantage or whatever, but that seem wishy-washy. Regardless, the rogue has the Reliable Talent and does need to play mother-may-I with the DM to know even relative obscure (DC 21) facts about the cleric's religion without any chance of failure.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I find that pretty lame.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WayOfTheFourElements, post: 7372402, member: 6904757"] The revised ranger is from Unearthed Arcana, which isn't even official material. I could have been printed in XGtE, but wasn't deemed worthy (for whatever reason), just like skill feats. They are a non-issue and irrelevant to our discussion. They are even less of an issue that completely optional rules, like feats and multi-classing. As for skills and classes, the problem isn't necessarily that this specific rogue knows the cleric's specific religion better than he does. The problem is that going by the PHB and standard point-buy, a 20th level rogue with 8 intelligence and just so happens to specialize in religion (+11 Religion) will know just as much about the part cleric's religion as the 20th level cleric with 20 intelligence (+11 Religion) [B]ever can[/B]. Yes, the DM can hand-wave skills for the part cleric, or grant the cleric advantage or whatever, but that seem wishy-washy. Regardless, the rogue has the Reliable Talent and does need to play mother-may-I with the DM to know even relative obscure (DC 21) facts about the cleric's religion without any chance of failure. Personally, I find that pretty lame. [/QUOTE]
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