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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7372905" data-attributes="member: 97077">I think there is a weird urge for some to boost DCs because of Expertise. There's really no need to though, right?Unless it's a contest, for me it's usually just 10, 15, or 20 based on my quick assessment of the approach to the goal with an eye toward consistency with past rulings. If someone has a bonus that makes those three go-to DCs trivial, hey, no big deal in my view. Every now and then, under specific circumstances a particular task might be a DC 25 or 30, but that's rare. And that seems about right.For your scale, did you set those success benchmarks on anything in particular?I would not ask for a roll if the players didn't describe what they wanted to do (and I found their approach to the goal uncertain). As a player I actually get kind of annoyed when I'm asked to make a check without declaring an action because the DM just assumed my character did something. I only get one thing to do in the basic conversation of the game as a player after all.Oh okay. I thought you meant the Expert auto-failed somehow and I couldn't figure that out. It's really about everyone else. I'm kind of in the camp of &quot;tough luck&quot; there, &quot;can't win 'em all.&quot; Or maybe they can if they spend enough of the right resources. That's their problem, not mine. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7372905, member: 97077"] I think there is a weird urge for some to boost DCs because of Expertise. There's really no need to though, right? Unless it's a contest, for me it's usually just 10, 15, or 20 based on my quick assessment of the approach to the goal with an eye toward consistency with past rulings. If someone has a bonus that makes those three go-to DCs trivial, hey, no big deal in my view. Every now and then, under specific circumstances a particular task might be a DC 25 or 30, but that's rare. And that seems about right. For your scale, did you set those success benchmarks on anything in particular? I would not ask for a roll if the players didn't describe what they wanted to do (and I found their approach to the goal uncertain). As a player I actually get kind of annoyed when I'm asked to make a check without declaring an action because the DM just assumed my character did something. I only get [I]one thing[/I] to do in the basic conversation of the game as a player after all. Oh okay. I thought you meant the Expert auto-failed somehow and I couldn't figure that out. It's really about everyone else. I'm kind of in the camp of "tough luck" there, "can't win 'em all." Or maybe they can if they spend enough of the right resources. That's their problem, not mine. :) [/QUOTE]

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