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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7373271" data-attributes="member: 6795602">That's only half the rule.&nbsp; There is also the part where it's auto-fail-on-1.So let's look at an example.&nbsp; Strong Fighter has 8 dex so a -1 dex mod and no proficiency in stealth.&nbsp; Stealthy Rogue has max dex, max proficiency and expertise for a +17 in stealth.&nbsp; The only DC I can set them at is 19 for the Strong Fighter and Stealthy Rogue to both have a chance for failure.&nbsp; If both characters were trying to perform essentially the same task and you decided you want the outcome uncertain is setting the DC to 19 in every case like that really what you want to do?The auto-success on 20 allows me to set the DC to whatever I feel is most appropriate and still have every character I want to have a chance at success to have a chance at success.&nbsp; In this example I could set the DC at 25 making the check a little harder for the rogue while still leaving the fighter a lucky chance of success.&nbsp; You could get the same effect by setting different DC's for different characters depending on their skill bonus but that is generally frowned upon.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7373271, member: 6795602"] That's only half the rule. There is also the part where it's auto-fail-on-1. So let's look at an example. Strong Fighter has 8 dex so a -1 dex mod and no proficiency in stealth. Stealthy Rogue has max dex, max proficiency and expertise for a +17 in stealth. The only DC I can set them at is 19 for the Strong Fighter and Stealthy Rogue to both have a chance for failure. If both characters were trying to perform essentially the same task and you decided you want the outcome uncertain is setting the DC to 19 in every case like that really what you want to do? The auto-success on 20 allows me to set the DC to whatever I feel is most appropriate and still have every character I want to have a chance at success to have a chance at success. In this example I could set the DC at 25 making the check a little harder for the rogue while still leaving the fighter a lucky chance of success. You could get the same effect by setting different DC's for different characters depending on their skill bonus but that is generally frowned upon. [/QUOTE]

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