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Is going from MAD to SAD worth one feat slot?
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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8370822" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>This would absolutely become the top-tier feat for any character that doesn't innately play perfectly to the stats it traditionally values. In particular, caster classes get an enormous boon from this, being able to layer in extra martial prowess if they desire it while also being able to set their casting to whichever stat they think is most interesting.</p><p></p><p>Consider it like this: a Bard is going to want good Cha, Dex, and Con, especially a Valor Bard. Valor Bard doesn't get its combat benefits until level 3 anyway, so the player is already playing with the expectation of waiting to actually get to do their stuff (unless the party starts at higher level, which the rules <em>do</em> advocate.....people are just really reluctant to DO it.) With this feat, a Bard can, in theory, completely ignore Charisma and instead focus purely on Dex/Con. This means that, at 4th level, the Bard almost certainly has additional HP from a higher Con mod, a better Dex save, a better to-hit modifier, and better AC. A single feat that provides <em>scaling</em> benefits to Con and Dex saves, HP, to-hit, AND AC? Yeah, that's a pretty dang powerful feat. And it only comes at the cost of being a little worse at Charisma skills, which the Bard is already amazing with anyway, so the slight drop is hardly a problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8370822, member: 6790260"] This would absolutely become the top-tier feat for any character that doesn't innately play perfectly to the stats it traditionally values. In particular, caster classes get an enormous boon from this, being able to layer in extra martial prowess if they desire it while also being able to set their casting to whichever stat they think is most interesting. Consider it like this: a Bard is going to want good Cha, Dex, and Con, especially a Valor Bard. Valor Bard doesn't get its combat benefits until level 3 anyway, so the player is already playing with the expectation of waiting to actually get to do their stuff (unless the party starts at higher level, which the rules [I]do[/I] advocate.....people are just really reluctant to DO it.) With this feat, a Bard can, in theory, completely ignore Charisma and instead focus purely on Dex/Con. This means that, at 4th level, the Bard almost certainly has additional HP from a higher Con mod, a better Dex save, a better to-hit modifier, and better AC. A single feat that provides [I]scaling[/I] benefits to Con and Dex saves, HP, to-hit, AND AC? Yeah, that's a pretty dang powerful feat. And it only comes at the cost of being a little worse at Charisma skills, which the Bard is already amazing with anyway, so the slight drop is hardly a problem. [/QUOTE]
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