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<blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 677106" data-attributes="member: 1118"><p>Well, besides the fact that the CRs are off, I don't know. As far as I'm concerned running into a kraken was supposed to be like running into a dragon (at least it was). I know I was thrown off when I saw the CR 12 when I looked it up. See....another thing that's broken!</p><p></p><p>BTW - a 16th level fighter with 18 Strength would have even odds to escape a kraken that was taking -20 on it's grapple check. </p><p></p><p>I'm going to pick another monster from the SRD at random (as I think the kraken is not CR12).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok....this monster appears to have a grapple check of 15. Assuming a 7th level fighter with STR16, the fighter has a grapple check of 10. If it wants to do the grapple check at -20 (so it's not considered grappled - has DEX, and can attack someone else), the fighter should break free the next round.</p><p></p><p>Another monster at random - Rast - grapple check of +6, CR 5. A 5th level fighter with STR 16 would have a grapple check of +8.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, yes, grappling is difficult ESPECIALLY against really big creatures (which is how it should be in my mind) and even more so if you aren't a fighter. I don't know if it's broken though - I think the CR of these big grappling monsters are off.</p><p></p><p>IceBear</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IceBear, post: 677106, member: 1118"] Well, besides the fact that the CRs are off, I don't know. As far as I'm concerned running into a kraken was supposed to be like running into a dragon (at least it was). I know I was thrown off when I saw the CR 12 when I looked it up. See....another thing that's broken! BTW - a 16th level fighter with 18 Strength would have even odds to escape a kraken that was taking -20 on it's grapple check. I'm going to pick another monster from the SRD at random (as I think the kraken is not CR12). Ok....this monster appears to have a grapple check of 15. Assuming a 7th level fighter with STR16, the fighter has a grapple check of 10. If it wants to do the grapple check at -20 (so it's not considered grappled - has DEX, and can attack someone else), the fighter should break free the next round. Another monster at random - Rast - grapple check of +6, CR 5. A 5th level fighter with STR 16 would have a grapple check of +8. Anyway, yes, grappling is difficult ESPECIALLY against really big creatures (which is how it should be in my mind) and even more so if you aren't a fighter. I don't know if it's broken though - I think the CR of these big grappling monsters are off. IceBear [/QUOTE]
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