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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 6908881" data-attributes="member: 23751">I don't agree with that.  Even back in 1e most "evil" monsters weren't bound to that alignment.  You could and did have neutral and good versions.  The closest you got were the always evil monsters, but even then there were rare exceptions.  Mindless killing based on appearance will result in the killing of good monsters of the types that appear to be the evil ones.  The good news is that the evil ones pretty much act and respond in an evil and violent way, justifying their killing.  However, if one acts in an unusual manner, the groups I have played with have almost always (about 90% of them) held off from just hacking the creature down in order to identify what was going on.I haven't been in any group that didn't face moral questions about the women and children of orcs.  Did many of them ultimately kill them anyway in order to prevent more evil from taking root in the world?  Yes.  Did many of them leave those women and children alive, not being willing to do something so heinous in order to keep evil down?  Yes.  The moral question was always brought up and discussed, though.  This goes back to 1e and basic.From 3e.[FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]"Good" implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]"Evil" implies hurting, oppressing, and killing others. Some evil creatures simply have no compassion for others and kill without qualms if doing so is convenient. Others actively pursue evil, killing for sport or out of duty to some evil deity or master.So good respects life and has concern for the dignity of sentient beings.  No restrictions like respects good and neutral life and sentient beings.Evil on the other hand kills others, has no compassion, and kills without qualms when convenient.  Killing others has no alignment restrictions, either.  Killing those orc women and children without qualms like you describe invokes the no compassion AND no qualms when convenient portions of evil.  I've seen many alignment threads here say it's okay to just murder prisoners who are evil when it's tough or impossible to get them back to a place where the authorities can hold or try them.  More murders of convenience.  Those are evil acts.[/FONT]</blockquote>

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