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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 6914766" data-attributes="member: 53980"><p>Where the heck are you getting that from? The machines might be programmed to not kill humans (my scenario doesn't even consider this aspect because it isn't relevant). They simply wouldn't have any moral imperative not to do so with each other. Machines are built to perform one or more functions. What function does it serve a recycling bot to question the morality of scrapping a toaster bot? None. It would simply have rules to follow about when it is appropriate to recycle other robots (when a bot is malfunctioning) and when it isn't (the bot is correctly serving a necessary role). A society in which murder is legal and yet not immoral. A machine programmed by a human does not necessarily have to follow a human morality, and even if it did, since when have humans ever had a moral issue with throwing their own machines in the trash?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Laws are typically created to be used broadly. If some legislator were to approve a law for my specific red light situation into being, would it make it any more or less moral than before? Hardly, despite that the risk remains the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's probably part of it, but there's also the fact that car accidents inconvenience the society. Even if we human beings were immortal, I'd bet you there would still be red light laws. Because the legislators don't want traffic.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I couldn't disagree more. If murder was considered moral/amoral, there would still be laws against it in a functional society. That's because you can't have a functional society in which people just kill each other whenever they feel like it. It would lead to a dysfunctional society.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I seriously doubt that (there are an overwhelming number of laws that are neither moral nor immoral) but even were that the case, it's irrelevant. "Being in compliance with" is not synonymous with "being a direct result thereof".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's a gross oversimplification. It's not simply the morals of the legislature which influence what becomes law and what simply remains a cultural more. Laws against murder simply happen to be a happy place where the needs of a society and human morality intersect. I have an example that illustrates this perfectly but saying it would almost certainly violate forum rules. Feel free to PM me if you want to know.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 6914766, member: 53980"] Where the heck are you getting that from? The machines might be programmed to not kill humans (my scenario doesn't even consider this aspect because it isn't relevant). They simply wouldn't have any moral imperative not to do so with each other. Machines are built to perform one or more functions. What function does it serve a recycling bot to question the morality of scrapping a toaster bot? None. It would simply have rules to follow about when it is appropriate to recycle other robots (when a bot is malfunctioning) and when it isn't (the bot is correctly serving a necessary role). A society in which murder is legal and yet not immoral. A machine programmed by a human does not necessarily have to follow a human morality, and even if it did, since when have humans ever had a moral issue with throwing their own machines in the trash? Laws are typically created to be used broadly. If some legislator were to approve a law for my specific red light situation into being, would it make it any more or less moral than before? Hardly, despite that the risk remains the same. That's probably part of it, but there's also the fact that car accidents inconvenience the society. Even if we human beings were immortal, I'd bet you there would still be red light laws. Because the legislators don't want traffic. I couldn't disagree more. If murder was considered moral/amoral, there would still be laws against it in a functional society. That's because you can't have a functional society in which people just kill each other whenever they feel like it. It would lead to a dysfunctional society. I seriously doubt that (there are an overwhelming number of laws that are neither moral nor immoral) but even were that the case, it's irrelevant. "Being in compliance with" is not synonymous with "being a direct result thereof". That's a gross oversimplification. It's not simply the morals of the legislature which influence what becomes law and what simply remains a cultural more. Laws against murder simply happen to be a happy place where the needs of a society and human morality intersect. I have an example that illustrates this perfectly but saying it would almost certainly violate forum rules. Feel free to PM me if you want to know. [/QUOTE]
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