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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 6917962" data-attributes="member: 53980">We don't know with certainty that the bouncer was keeping the peace. That's an assumption, as it was not something the OP stated. I'll grant you that it's a reasonable assumption and even likely to be true, but that doesn't make it a fact. Therefore, the possibility exists that it is a false assumption.As a matter of fact, if it had been an NPC orc I would still give them the benefit of the doubt. Just the kind of guy I am. My characters frequently attempt negotiation as a first course of action with other sentient creatures, even ones presumed to be "evil". My DMs tend to give their evil NPCs a level of nuance beyond "crush kill destroy". I do the same when I am DMing. Granted, if the foe proves unwilling to talk the vast majority of my characters would have no issue with ending them.Suppose the scenario was like this. The PCs are at the bank and someone attempts to rob it. The PCs attack the robbers and there is a big fight. The security guard comes running in, pulls out his gun and starts shooting because he realizes that he can probably take whatever is in these guys' wallets without anyone noticing before the cops get here, and there will be no legal recourse for the killings since he was simply doing his job. The PCs prove too much for him and he throws down his gun, but one of the PCs (admittedly a real loose cannon) realizes that this guy is a dangerous sociopath who won't likely have charges pressed against him (because he was just doing his job) and decides to shoot the guard in the head rather than give him the chance to harm anyone in the future. That makes it a chaotic good act since the PC is acting in accordance with his conscience.Keep in mind that I never said that the act wasn't evil. I've simply stated that the possibility exists for it to have been a non-evil act. Whether it was or wasn't can only be factually determined after learning the particulars of the situation, which we are lacking. This is why law enforcement investigates the details surrounding a murder, such as the motive, rather than stopping once they've established the killer's identity.</blockquote>

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