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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 6921753" data-attributes="member: 23751">You're right.&nbsp; They are the same in that they can both be different alignments.That was a short lived idea <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;&nbsp; 3e introduced demons with the explicit alignment of &quot;Always chaotic evil&quot;.&nbsp; Orcs on the other hand were &quot;often chaotic evil&quot;, and ogres were &quot;usually chaotic evil&quot;.I'm conflicted.&nbsp; On one hand, I like the &quot;Always CE&quot; of demons.&nbsp; On the other hand, I like having the very rare one in a million good demon as a possibility. For purposes of the game and &quot;people&quot; being those creatures that can be good or evil, 2e had all creatures being inherently people.&nbsp; You brought up the &quot;people&quot; term.&nbsp; I just went with it.&nbsp; If there's a different term you are more comfortable with, let me know. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 6921753, member: 23751"] You're right. They are the same in that they can both be different alignments. That was a short lived idea ;) 3e introduced demons with the explicit alignment of "Always chaotic evil". Orcs on the other hand were "often chaotic evil", and ogres were "usually chaotic evil". I'm conflicted. On one hand, I like the "Always CE" of demons. On the other hand, I like having the very rare one in a million good demon as a possibility. For purposes of the game and "people" being those creatures that can be good or evil, 2e had all creatures being inherently people. You brought up the "people" term. I just went with it. If there's a different term you are more comfortable with, let me know. :) [/QUOTE]

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