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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5347731" data-attributes="member: 59506">I guess &quot;Rebellious&quot; is a highly subjective and relative thing.&nbsp; Depending upon when, where, and who.&nbsp;At the time KISS was big, in some places it was no big deal.&nbsp; In others, it was practically viewed as a manifestation of Satanism (kind of like D&amp;D!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />).&nbsp; Even if KISS seems like elevator music today, a 13 year old kid who makes it part of his identity today is &quot;Rebelling&quot;.&nbsp; He's rebelling against the prevailing culture of the kids around him.&nbsp;Also, we might not view the music that kids listen to today as necessarily &quot;Rebellious&quot; or &quot;counter culture&quot;...but it may fill that role for them.&nbsp;Teenage &quot;Rebelliousness&quot; isn't as much about actually Rebelling, as it's about establishing an Identity...an Identity that differentiates them from the rest of the world...and at the same time providing a sense of belonging (whether to a micro-culture, the culture of their peers, or the culture at large).&nbsp; I know it sounds contradictory, but it's a stage that everyone goes through as they mature (just like we did).&nbsp; But, I think that adults (us) understand this more today, and that's why we don't see the music the kids are listening to as &quot;Rebellious&quot;.&nbsp;<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:"&nbsp; data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 5347731, member: 59506"] I guess "Rebellious" is a highly subjective and relative thing. Depending upon when, where, and who. At the time KISS was big, in some places it was no big deal. In others, it was practically viewed as a manifestation of Satanism (kind of like D&D!;)). Even if KISS seems like elevator music today, a 13 year old kid who makes it part of his identity today [I]is[/I] "Rebelling". He's rebelling against the prevailing culture of the kids around him. Also, [I]we[/I] might not view the music that kids listen to today as necessarily "Rebellious" or "counter culture"...but it may fill that role for them. Teenage "Rebelliousness" isn't as much about actually [I]Rebelling[/I], as it's about establishing an Identity...an Identity that differentiates them from the rest of the world...and at the same time providing a sense of belonging (whether to a micro-culture, the culture of their peers, or the culture at large). I know it sounds contradictory, but it's a stage that everyone goes through as they mature (just like we did). But, I think that adults (us) understand this more today, and that's why we don't see the music the kids are listening to as "Rebellious". :cool: [/QUOTE]

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