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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5286509" data-attributes="member: 22779">Heh Nedjer - been guilty of that a few times myself.Play in Catan can be surprisingly complex.&nbsp; But, the rules themselves are very, very simple.&nbsp; Endeavor is like Catan in that the actual rules aren't terribly hard to master - it's all pretty straight forward.&nbsp; But actual play, while not mechanically complex, is bloody hard to win.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Kind of like chess really.&nbsp; Relatively small number of rules that lead to very complex interactions.Umbran - I would point out that the rules for Catan cover about a page and a half.&nbsp; The rest is examples and very, very newbie friendly explanations.&nbsp; Heck, they even provide a basic game setup for you for the first time you play.As I said, I played Catan with four players, other than me, none of them played board games (and I hadn't played any board games in years), and, again, other than me, they were all playing in a second language.Bitch of it is, I keep losing.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5286509, member: 22779"] Heh Nedjer - been guilty of that a few times myself. Play in Catan can be surprisingly complex. But, the rules themselves are very, very simple. Endeavor is like Catan in that the actual rules aren't terribly hard to master - it's all pretty straight forward. But actual play, while not mechanically complex, is bloody hard to win. :) Kind of like chess really. Relatively small number of rules that lead to very complex interactions. Umbran - I would point out that the rules for Catan cover about a page and a half. The rest is examples and very, very newbie friendly explanations. Heck, they even provide a basic game setup for you for the first time you play. As I said, I played Catan with four players, other than me, none of them played board games (and I hadn't played any board games in years), and, again, other than me, they were all playing in a second language. Bitch of it is, I keep losing. :( [/QUOTE]

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