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<blockquote data-quote="Aust Diamondew" data-source="post: 4072966" data-attributes="member: 5156">Really?Stregnth should be as useful to a wizard as intelligence?All abilties should be useful to all character but some should be more important than others, you can really divide ability scores into 3 tiers of usefulness for all classes.For instance 3e wizard has very clear stat priorities:Tier 1: Intellignce, Constitution,&nbsp; DexterityTier 2: WisdomTier 3 (dump stats): Charisma, Strengthor a typical 3e Rogue Tier 1: Dexterity, IntelligenceTier 2: Constitution, Wisdom, Charisma, StregnthBut the thing with 3e rogues is that many many builds of rogue are possible, I played an 8 dex rogue in plate armor, focused on skills that weren't effected by that (search, spot, disable device etc).&nbsp; Not that this should necessarily be supported with the rogue class in 4e.Likewise you can dump Int if you only need to max out 5 or 6 skills to do your job in the party (I've seen it done, all he wanted to do was be able to feint and have some of those athletic skills).&nbsp; The tiers shift about depending on your specialty (no charisma if you're not social, no stregnth if you just rely on sneak attack etc)I don't want 4e rogue to have dump stats like the 3e Wizard, if it does intelligence should not be one of them and I don't think it will.Sorry if I ramble.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aust Diamondew, post: 4072966, member: 5156"] Really? Stregnth should be as useful to a wizard as intelligence? All abilties should be useful to all character but some should be more important than others, you can really divide ability scores into 3 tiers of usefulness for all classes. For instance 3e wizard has very clear stat priorities: Tier 1: Intellignce, Constitution, Dexterity Tier 2: Wisdom Tier 3 (dump stats): Charisma, Strength or a typical 3e Rogue Tier 1: Dexterity, Intelligence Tier 2: Constitution, Wisdom, Charisma, Stregnth But the thing with 3e rogues is that many many builds of rogue are possible, I played an 8 dex rogue in plate armor, focused on skills that weren't effected by that (search, spot, disable device etc). Not that this should necessarily be supported with the rogue class in 4e. Likewise you can dump Int if you only need to max out 5 or 6 skills to do your job in the party (I've seen it done, all he wanted to do was be able to feint and have some of those athletic skills). The tiers shift about depending on your specialty (no charisma if you're not social, no stregnth if you just rely on sneak attack etc) I don't want 4e rogue to have dump stats like the 3e Wizard, if it does intelligence should [B]not [/B] be one of them and I don't think it will. Sorry if I ramble. [/QUOTE]

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