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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CWD" data-source="post: 268020" data-attributes="member: 665">Tsyr,I'll happily back down here...If you are using '20' equals success, then yes you need to make certain things impossible otherwise 1st-level commoners with a 3 Strength could jump 100-foot chasms.Interestingly, the Epic Level Handbook suggests changing the d20 roll to prevent automatic success and failure wierdness. Here's what they recommend:If you roll a '1', roll again and subtract 20 from the result.  If you get a second one, repeat until you stop rolling '1's.If you roll a '20', roll again and add 20 to the result.  If you get a second one, repeat until you stop rolling '20's.They suggest this system for attack rolls and possibly saving throws (don't have the book).  You could consider something like this if 20 = success produces some wierdness.  If you are happy just saying "no" to some things, then more power to you.Junkheap,The lives of PCs in my campaign is easy because I let them actually use the skills in the rulebook??    <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> The skill description of intimidate just says it influences behavior, it doesn't say the bad guy does exactly what the PC wants.  If the bad guy is intimidated, maybe he just picks another target, or goes after the PC with ranged weapons instead of melee, or tries to kill the PC before he can carry out the threat.I would also like to point out that it SHOULD be possible for a lower-level halfling to intimidate a powerful dragon if he somehow has enough bonuses (say from a magic item) to make the DC.  The dragon doesn't KNOW how powerful the halfling is after all, the little guy could be a 40th-level barbarian or something.As to people who think I'm a whacko for letting PCs be on the recieving end of social skills.  I'll repeat, I don't FORCE them to do anything, I just dangle an XP carrot in front of them and they usually go along with it.Then again, my favorite alignment system is the one from Pendragon, where it really DOES dictate the player's actions....</blockquote>

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