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<blockquote data-quote="TaranTheWanderer" data-source="post: 8064495" data-attributes="member: 15882">I'll play.&nbsp; Here's three (fun)examples:&nbsp; two are real life examples and one is an in-game example.In game:We are leaving town when we are accosted by some cloaked figures.NPC: &quot;Hey, I see you guys are leaving town. You know, our boss' office was robbed last night. You know anything about that?&quot;Me: &quot;No, sorry&quot;NPC(acting tough): Well, then, maybe you can just let me have a look in your bag, just in case.Me:&nbsp; &quot;Get lost.&quot;&nbsp; (Rated G version of what I said)DM:&nbsp; Make an intimidation check.&nbsp; If you succeed, they back down and you can leave town unharassed.Real life: (on the phone)&quot;Yeah, Tom, I'd love to play D&amp;D for a third straight night in a row. Let me just tell my wife....Dearest wife, I'm going to play D&amp;D tonight, for the third straight night, hope you don't mind!...&quot;Wife: Delivers a Look that could wither a tree&quot;Hey, Tom, maybe playing D&amp;D tonight isn't such a good idea.&quot;Real Life:3 year old to the 4 year old.&quot;Give me the ball&quot;4 year Old&quot;&nbsp; &quot;NO!&quot;3&nbsp; Year old, &quot; I'm going to tell on you!&quot;4 year Old - despite having done nothing wrong - &quot;Fine, take it! I hate you!&quot;&nbsp; (throws ball at 3 year old's face)No threats of violence.&nbsp; All intimidation checks.&nbsp; Most of the people involved aren't Evil.&nbsp; The second example didn't even require any words.For the record, the threat of the bouncers is having to leave the bar, where you are presumably having fun.&nbsp; It's not the threat of getting a beating.&nbsp; &quot;If you touch the waitress again, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.&quot;In any case, I'm not trying to convince you.&nbsp; If I were to play a game and you were the DM, I wouldn't bother taking Intimidate as a proficiency.&nbsp; We run different games.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TaranTheWanderer, post: 8064495, member: 15882"] I'll play. Here's three (fun)examples: two are real life examples and one is an in-game example. [B]In game:[/B] We are leaving town when we are accosted by some cloaked figures. NPC: "Hey, I see you guys are leaving town. You know, our boss' office was robbed last night. You know anything about that?" Me: "No, sorry" NPC(acting tough): Well, then, maybe you can just let me have a look in your bag, just in case. Me: "Get lost." (Rated G version of what I said) DM: Make an intimidation check. If you succeed, they back down and you can leave town unharassed. [B]Real life: (on the phone)[/B] "Yeah, Tom, I'd love to play D&D for a third straight night in a row. Let me just tell my wife.... Dearest wife, I'm going to play D&D tonight, for the third straight night, hope you don't mind!..." Wife: [I]Delivers a Look that could wither a tree[/I] "Hey, Tom, maybe playing D&D tonight isn't such a good idea." [B]Real Life:[/B] 3 year old to the 4 year old. "Give me the ball" 4 year Old" "NO!" 3 Year old, " I'm going to tell on you!" 4 year Old - despite having done nothing wrong - "Fine, take it! I hate you!" (throws ball at 3 year old's face) No threats of violence. All intimidation checks. Most of the people involved aren't Evil. The second example didn't even require [I]any[/I] [I]words.[/I] For the record, the threat of the bouncers is having to leave the bar, where you are presumably having fun. It's not the threat of getting a beating. "If you touch the waitress again, I'm going to have to ask you to leave." In any case, I'm not trying to convince you. If I were to play a game and you were the DM, I wouldn't bother taking Intimidate as a proficiency. We run different games. [/QUOTE]

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